I was bored at work so chatted with Microsoft support about this.
Summary of funny part
Me: no, it's an advertisement, asking me to try a Microsoft product. The ad came through my message tray. I have all ad services turned off.
Them: that's not an ad, that's recommendation for a better service
Me: are you aware that you just described an advertisement?
Them: yes.
They're so annoying! I can't stand that company!
i wish i didnt dislike linux or mac so much also im a gamer so windows is a necessity (but u can game on linux? i play valorant exclusively at this point which isnt linux support afaik)
and no there isn't a linux distro i might like and if there is i can find it myself linux people are so damn annoying.
They probably have to recite a standard company line, gritting their teeth as you both know it's bullshit.
I don't envy customer service reps. Most of them probably didn't apply for the job because they love Microsoft or enjoy the prospect of fielding frustrated customers' calls.
I've been on Linux for a while but this shit is starting to make my wife ask about switching over. Which is something I never thought I'd see.
I think that + her playing baldurs gate on my computer will be what drive mine to it. Though her breaking it by updating my graphics card in order to make it run the first time definitely didnβt help.
Just get her something like Mint which allows you to easily switch graphics drivers. Definitely the distro I tend to recommend to nvidia users. Arch or anything arch based works as well, but that requires some experience at least. Though Garuda is pretty damn simple, I'm tempted to call it noob-friendly. It's what I use right now.
I never thought good could come out of Microsoft's messed up ways, but here we are! Haha
Man, I love Linux, but it's not a replacement for windows. Like, crucify me if you must, fellow Lemmings, but the world still runs on Windows when it comes to many important everyday things.
For me, it's game servers and the games themselves. I can't run half the stuff I want to run on Linux. It sucks, but this is the reality we live in.
Itβs been downhill since Windows 7. I think this will be my last Windows PC.
I just donβt feel safe with Windows that next time I boot up there wonβt be some fresh horror I didnβt ask for and have to go research how to put back in the bottle.
Itβs like having your computer pre-rooted with malware.
Jumping between Mac and Windows I keep accidentally awakening Cortana when I try to copy and paste. Now that god awful, universally reviled feature if finally getting deprecated but it still brings up the damn window/modal/pice-of-shit just to tell me that itβs gone. If you want to be gone, then go! Donβt make a fuss telling me about it. Just go. No one wanted you in the 1st place. Fuck.
This comment has really a really good vibe to it. Like, if comments were essential oils, and if I was a sucker, Iβd bottle this comment.
That's exactly what it is. Defender is removing PUPs (potentially unwanted programs), but only those unwanted by Microsoft, while Windows is installing unwanted programs left and right. Windows is legitimately acting like malware. Not even a joke.
I mean I liked 7. Last good one imo
Remember Vista?
I'm curious as to how much something like shutup10 helps with that. I was always tempted, but never tried it. I barely touched windows these past few years anyways.
Yes, being comoditized by a corporation. True socialism comrade. Truly we've seized the means of production.
The means of production have seized us!
In Soviet Russia means of production seize you
Install Linux, problem resolved.
Linux Mint is massively less frustrating to use than Windows 10 or 11
Fedora here, been running Baldur's Gate 3 no problem using proton. Even with a 2600.
No reason to go back to windows knowing I can run pretty much anything through steam.
I'm gonna have to go for Linux once my current laptop dies. Now way I'm putting up with Windows 11.
Awesome ππ»
Install both! That way you can play all the games you want, if you're a nerd like me, but you can move the other everyday stuff to Linux!
More games are coming to Linux, it'll be a while for this process to complete.
Nowadays, Its actually harder to find a game that flat out won't work. Thanks to Proton, the only games that you can't play on linux are ones that the developer has specifically forbidden from working on linux via whatever AC they use.
That's what I did well over 20 years ago. Never looked back.
I don't have personal experience with games on Linux but from what I'm hearing, most games should now work the same on Linux as on windows
Friends don't let friends drive windows.
I let friends make their own choice. I sport a lovely Fedora and allow them to make their own decisions..... Hahaha
Do... Do you use the fedora to greet ladies? I hope so. They love that.
Yeah, but I like to play PC games.
I can only not play 1 or 2 games on Linux. Everything else literally runs native through steam. Use pop_OS it does all the work for you.
Can't play tarkov, tarkov runs perfect on Linux, but its anticheat does not. The devs of the anti cheat tarkov uses said they are planning Linux support but that was 2 years ago.
Some other odder ones too. Let me know of questions.
Oh this link should be your bible. It will directly tell you what runs, and how well it runs
@Homo_Stupidus @kingludd, there are more and more games also for Linux.
Most good games are certainly Windows only, not because it is the most suitable platform, but only because developers create their product for the majority platform, which at the moment is Windows. Linux is basically much better for running games than Windows, but unfortunately the majority of games available for Linux are Sidescrollers and remixes of games from 20 years ago, with exceptions, eg https://www.thedarkmod.com/main/
The first thing you would do after browsing lemmy would be installing linux because there are many foss enthusiasist and linux users playing around here in lemmy making you switch to linux
Thatβs in fact why Iβm a linux user now
Been a Linux user for more than a decade, but work doesn't do Linux :( I even brought my laptop in to show them that everything works fine (AD and all), but they didn't go for it.
Same here. Bought a laptop a few years ago, and immediately installed manjaro. I wasn't even going to futz around with dual booting. I decided I was done with windows and their bullshit. Haven't looked back.
I think you'll find it is no longer "My Computer" but now "This PC"
Haha! Good one! I'm going to use that!
Oppression breeds rebellion, why relying on a software you have zero control over, that the company that owns it respects you so litle that they pre install adware and spyware, learn to use Linux or BSD, you don't have to use it all the time, but learn the basics, understand how this machine you use so much works, seize that litle piece of freedom back, and even if you choose to use windows again, after knowing more of how things work, you will be more able to force it in working your way.
For sure, and Linux/BSD isn't that scary. For anyone here who doesn't think they are smart enough, I'll give you a hint; even the Linux guru's 'Google' everything. They're looking up very different things but they're still searching like the rest of us. If you stick with popular distros there's always a guide, or a forum post, or a YouTube video that'll show you how to do almost anything. You don't even need to install it, you can run most distros, and all the popular ones, off a USB stick. You don't even need to change anything on your computer to try it. I personally still use Windows for almost everything, but calzone_gigante is right,
even if you choose to use windows again, after knowing more of how things work, you will be more able to force it in working your way.
In theory, yes. But not in practice. This is a work computer, and I can't just turn this stuff off without tripping the xdr. For home computers, I would imagine you are 100% correct, but I've been using Linux for years. I'm assuming shush windows (or similar) still works on Win10/11.
Only linux is "ours"
I serve the soviet gnunion
Omg that is so good in the nerdiest way possible
I serve St. IGNUcious, in the church of emacs
When you install windows ypu can set timezone to "world" and it will not be there...
You can also avoid making a microsoft account (or logging in) if you log innusing [email protected] and any password.
Then it will say something went wrong but you can continue, by making an offline account
I thought you were kidding, but then I looked it up on the net and it seems this is really a thing. WTF Microsoft!?
I use the Enterprise SKU of Windows 11 and you can fortunately still use the Domain Join option with that. Comes without that advertisement crap as well. The only caveat is that you canβt really activate Enterprise legally without a subscription and KMS but there are ways to circumvent that issue ;)
I swear to god if I have to remove Bing search bar from my desktop one more time...
What? Are you sure you don't want to search the internet when you aren't even opening a browser? Are you sure what you're looking for is a local file/installation?
It was searching for a software I know I have and getting edge binging it for meβ¦
This happened to me when searching for Excel today. I facepalmed. They're doing this shit on purpose.
I've got a worse one. I was using Windows in a VM the other day and got an ad for Xbox controllers. Basically "check out our new controller colors, click on this notification to go buy one."
Oh, Microsoft....
I briefly saw that. The second I moused over to remove it it removed itself, like it was guilty for what it had done.
I am honestly surprised they have not yet made Windows free, at least the most basic "home" version. I guess they must still be making a lot of money by just having come preinstalled on any laptop or pre-built PC.
My absolute most hated one is when signing in and using a two factor Authenticator. If you donβt use the Microsoft one. Every time you log in it βrecommendsβ you to use their own. Fuck off.
Before anyone says go Linux. This is a work comp. I use Linux and Mac at home.
Yes! I hate that!!
I won't tell you to use Linux. I feel that it should be your choice. Like Mac, Linux isn't for everyone. And if you use Microsoft's email service on Linux, you'll have the same anyway. It's not windows that's the problem at its core, it's Microsoft.
Isn't it suspicious how hard they've been pushing "clipchamp"? Like it's probably full of telemetry or something.
Like everything windows. Or Microsoft in general.
Wait, that's real?
I thought it was just some dumb name that someone came up with for this meme!
Yeah, being forced to sit through unskippable ads in order to even just play solitaire is real special. And even if you close the program and restart your PC, the ads are still right there waiting for you to watch before you can continue with your game. This is probably going to be my last Windows machine.
The notification center is useless, if I have an app-specific notification then it's highlighted in my taskbar anyway. All of the inline ads are delivered through notifications, so just turn off notification center in registry and the problem is solved. Same for removing edit with clipchamp from context menus. Tbh I'm not super against them bringing attention to their 1st party apps because things like the Photos app happen occasionally and that was an objective improvement for OS-bundled photo software. The problem is that Clipchamp sucks ass
My problem is two-fold. (1) if I wanted a video editing app, I'd search for one, I don't need my OS to randomly "recommend" one, and (2) I don't want any such suggestions on my work computer, ever. Maybe three-fold, (3) clipchamp, I heard, sucks ass ;p
Socialism is when a corporation does stuff.
And itβs more socialism the more stuff it does.
And if it does a whole load of stuff, thatβs communism.
Especially if the stuff it does is ads. The bullshitter the job the government does, the more communism it is!
"You are the product"
It used to be "if something was free then you're the product". Now, it's just "you're the product", period.
More like "You are one small part on are bigger product"
Except they are also selling it for $139.
So it isnβt βyouβre the productβ itβs them double dipping.
Is this american or windows 11 thing? I have never seen stuff like that on windows 10
Have you tried edge browser? It's so much faster than chrome
How about a load of default start menu items for nonsense like candy crush?
...maybe you'll appreciate that we integrated our cloud storage in explorer.
There's still a fair bit of it in 10 - though it seems easier to deal with, and think it's dialled down in Pro.
OC for you.
No shit, who else would add a damn lemmy watermark.
It's so ironic that a paid product that you'll never own and is so anti consumer is used by most over the alternative that you could own for free and cares about users! Keep complainingπΏ
I use arch btw.
I daily Fedora at home (and Windows at work). Got tired Arch breaking every so often, and wanted something that didn't come with anxiety with every update haha
That is exactly why you buy cheap keys for your windows install and remove everything you don't need. Edge got nuked from orbit by me and most annoying ads disappeared with it. I killed all notifications and I am now much happier.
Without Edge, many things don't work on windows. Also, those cheap license sites have a tendency to sell illegally obtained keys. Once Windows does a key audit, the affected PC can have its key disabled. Although, you strike me as the type of individual that can bypass the key audits. Disabling notifications is one of the first things I do on windows.
Yeah, i disabled basically all telemetry on windows. I also will never upgrade to 11. It sucks donkey balls. Also I haven't noticed any change in edge being gone. Maybe I just got lucky.
Forgot to say, I got my keys from a system builder who had a shit ton of them but had to get them off the shelves because windows 11 was around the corner. So they are all legally obtained.
Idk guys, they're just saying they're releasing a new video editor, really doesn't seem like the most egregious thing MS has done.
