Saying "Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed" is too long, just Lemmy is reductive, "Threadiverse" doesn't really roll off the tongue,we are only a subset of the Fediverse. What would you call us? Horrible names allowed

linkler

I've seen Feddit around to I'm not sure how I feel about it.

-Fediread? And we could distinguish the others aspects of the fediverse servers: -Fediblog : Mastodon, Pleroma, etc. -Fediphoto: Pixelfed -Fedivideo: Peertube

Just call it Lemmy people need a simple name and Lemmy is fun to say

It's fun until people bring up that the main devs political positions are debatable https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/socialism_faq.md#whats-going-on-with-the-uyghurs

And I said debatable because I have no strong opinion on the matter. That would make me a lib for some people, a leftist for others, I don't really care.

What I've seen is that argument is regularly brought up by detractors of the platform, which is why I always insist on saying that Piefed and Mbin are compatible and managed by other development teams
- If someone is putting their manifesto on GitHub you can safely just disregard everything they say as crackpot nonsense tbh
We're on Lemmy. We are Lamingtons.

if I say "nerd social media" my gf know exactly what I'm talking about

!reddit

Social net.

Two words everyone understands. Also the two ideas that make the fediverse what it is.

That's... really cool actually 😎

But is it perhaps too generic?

Also that sounds like a replacement for Fediverse rather than Threadiverse/Forumverse.

Still, social.net would be a great name for a new Fediverse instance? It almost kinda is already, in discuss.online.:-)

Lemmy

Thready

McThreadface
- Amazing

The good internet

The good internet = TGI

TGIF = Thank ~~god~~ it's federated
- Thank Graphics Interchange Format?
Eternal August
- Referring to 2023 August, when Reddit shut down their free API?
The Little Internets That Could
The Classic internet

Threadiverse is a terrible name, the most immediate word association is Threads, ostensibly a large corporate competitor, and the most immediate search result is a geeky/nerdy tshirt/merch company.

Better names?

Fuck uh... I dunno.

Lemmyverse

Lemmy and Friends

Reddit Asylum Seekers Club (RASCL?)

The front page of Web 4.0

Fediverse's Fractious Forums

???

A lot of people from Reddit refuse to come here due to the association with tankies, as evidenced in the name Lemmy.

Also PieFed has little to do with Lemmy, except being interoperable with it, like K/Mbin. And Sublinks will introduce newer even more complicated terminology as in "the instance formerly using Lemmy, now having switched over to Sublinks":-).

Anyway we already have both Lemmy and Fediverse, so the purpose of this third name is to represent the not-just-Lemmy portion of the Fediverse. Threadiverse is a horrible name... but the only one people seem willing to use. Forumverse?

Threads is dead, maybe we should finally just let it go? Oh, and use of Threadiverse predated that existing in any case. It's solidly our term, not theirs... if we want it.
- PieFed has little to do with Lemmy, except being interoperable with it,
  
  Seems like quite a link to be honest
- Why would the word lemmy be associated with tankies?
Fediverse’s Fractious Forums

Fediverse Facetious Friends

"The United Link Aggregation Alliance of the Threaded Fediverse, which includes Lemmy, PieFed, kbin, and its fork mbin"

TULAATF-LPKM...

Or Tula.
- Or Tula.
  
  Hold up, this is actually good. My mediocre joke actually spawned something decent, wtf!?
People’s Front of Judea vibes
- Take that back, it's clearly giving Judean People's Front.
Communwealth, alliance of communities
- Sounds to british, confederation?

lemmy. come at me kbinners

Beware the Piefed army
- What army?
- raaarrr
kbinners probably don’t have a working instance to see our convo
- Not true! There is a single server, in Poland, with 73 users on it. 😁

I generally don't. I don't find it to be a useful grouping to reference or discuss.

Try piefed.social
Try Discuss.online
Try beehaw.org
Try programming.dev
I'm always referring to one, never the group.

I wouldn't point them to Beehaw though, their segregated nature and difficult onboarding process make it less welcoming for newcomers to the Fediverse.

lemmy.blahaj.zone is a better choice for people who want LGBTQ friendly spaces.
- I think this is a great illustration of my point. I like the culture beehaw.org has established more than what lemmy.blahaj.zone has encouraged. And I don't particularly care about "the fediverse". I care about the online communities I engage with.
  
  Everyone is different and I make my recommendation based on what I think the person I'm making recommendations to would like most.
Yeah, pointing people to individual instances seems to be the most effective way of getting them to try out whatever we call this place. They can learn how it works later.
- Example of confusion some users experience: https://old.reddit.com/r/RejoinEU/comments/1ipff9z/ok_so_what_next_what_can_you_do_to_help_the_cause/me0jdxp/?context=3
Example of confusion some users experience: https://old.reddit.com/r/RejoinEU/comments/1ipff9z/ok_so_what_next_what_can_you_do_to_help_the_cause/me0jdxp/?context=3

TheVerse

I’ve taken a liking to threadiverse, though I think it might confuse some people given Meta’s Threads and Metaverse, people might assume it’s a mix of that.

Fuck facebook for stealing the name metaverse BTW.
- they stole metaverse so lets take threads back for the collective and confuse ppl they go looking for threads and wind up here
- Was it from Snow Crash?
Since Meta's Threads died, and anyway usage of the word Threadiverse predated its existence, I finally relented and now use Threadiverse. Or Fediverse. Forumverse kinda sounds cool too, though generally speaking nobody seems to want to use it.

What to call this stuff...

Jokingly:
webweb, 'cause it's a web of websites.
cross-fora, 'cause they're like cross-posts but entire forums.
newsvents, 'cause a lot of the activity is venting in news post comments. 😉
memecycling centers, 'cause it's a lot of reposts of old memes/shitposts.

Realistically:
Whatever instance/site I'm directing someone to.

stick-in-the-mud-tangent

I'd never tell someone to go to WordPress if I was telling them to go to a site built with Wordpress, that'd be silly and out of touch. It'd also be out of touch to use some jargon that means nothing to them like "threadiverse".

All the pointing to these backends as though they're platforms like the corporate platforms shows how much they've conditioned people into thinking in their terms. The major benefit to these backends is they're more open, enabling greater mobility between the instances of them/sites built with them.

All the pointing to these backends as though they’re platforms like the corporate platforms shows how much they’ve conditioned people into thinking in their terms.

I see where you come from, but it's still a platform, a network. It's way more connected that WordPress.

Piefed, Mbin and Lemmy have back and frontends, it's not like you're connecting directly to the instance using API calls
- I see where you come from, but it’s still a platform, a network.
  
  But that network is not Lemmy or kbin or mbin or piefed. That network is activitypub, the platform is activitypub. Those backends are just what you use to connect to the network, but you could use any other implementation (just that there aren't that many right now).

Forumverse

Since a lot of the discourse is around getting back to forums and the vibe of that era, this feels pretty apt.
- Except there is no fedi-forum? Or what am I missing?

"Reddit alternative".

That's true for Lemmy, but Mbin and PieFed go far beyond what Reddit tried to do. Unless Reddit has plans to also directly show posts from X?
- True, but if we say Reddit alternative, we can then say, oh we also have Twitter
Soon to be "digg alternative"

Fedi... Been doing it and it works

Sounds like FBI is knocking
- Federated Boards of Internet
- I am sure feds b on fedi tbh

Lembinfed

Piemmy

Versed

Versed rolls off the tongue. Bonus affinity from me (healthcare worker) for sounding like the benzo. ;)
That's actually cool

I would say Men of Low Moral Fibre but that's not inclusive...

On a more serious note (compared to my previous comments), I don't think this is a good idea. While it has the best of intentions, it only leads to further fragmention and confusion.

I gotta admit Im already fragmented and confused
- fwiw, Welcome to the Fediverse! Is there anything in particular that has you kerflumoxed?
I was just thinking about the main criticism we get when we promote Lemmy, which is "why are there so many different URLs, names, platforms? What is Voyager, Photon, Piefed, Lemmy? Feddit.uk, lemmy.ca?"

So, in the same logic as just saying "go to https://phtn.app/ to have a look at the content and see if you like it. If you want an app, the links are on https://vger.app/settings/install", I think it could be interesting to have a global name for everything. We could even try with Photon, to be honest.

"Go to https://phtn.app/ to have a look at the content and see if you like it. If you want an app, the links are on https://phtn.app/mobile (which would redirect to the 2 Voyager links). Example of confusion some users experience: https://old.reddit.com/r/RejoinEU/comments/1ipff9z/ok_so_what_next_what_can_you_do_to_help_the_cause/me0jdxp/?context=3
I'm not against a consolidated name that fully encapsulates the ActivityPubiverse, and still think that is important to driving people in. Fediverse is probably sufficient enough for the time being. But user activity begins when users can interact with it, so perhaps introducing instances as 'lemdro.id, a Lemmy platform' or something of that ilk could achieve that. That way, it's not seen as a competing standard, just an implementation of one. Then, as users become more familiar with the ecosystem, the hierarchy and segments could be learnt over time if they choose to do so.
- ‘lemdro.id, a Lemmy platform’
  
  But then you have "feddit.online, a Piefed instance", and people would have no way to know those two work with each other

LinkHub

We went with "forum style" fediverse platform

https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/lemmy/for-users

Nice guide!

idk, fediverse seems fine to me

It is, but we're not really the same kind of platform than Mastodon or Misskey, or Pixelfed or Peertube
- Isn't that a bit of a shame though? I mean the fact that there's so little interconnection between these platforms. I know culturally there isn't too much but also the threadiverse often doesn't federate properly or support the way the rest of the fediverse works.
- Seriously. Mastodon is just a huge monoculture, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell a user's instance from their comments for example. While forumverse (i'm going to use this now xd) instances feel very defined and not too hard to tell where users are from (except with general instances, that can get hard.

forumnet? Boardpub?

How about 'FediverseLMP', pronounced fediverse+"ehlmp"?

I've thought the same about "link aggregator" on join-lemmy.org, even though it seems like the best two words to use to describe such platforms, it needs further explanation most of the time.

Reddit was hard to market for the same reasons, although they had a pretty good name.

"Fedup"

Fuhgeddit

Disqus is actually a quite good name when you think about it

It's already in use. It's a commenting system on some blogs/websites:

https://disqus.com
- I know
Sounds like disgust
What makes you say that? Just curious
- Close to the "discuss" concept, and doesn't sound too bad, especially compared to the rest of the names here

Link aggregators anonymous

The Reddit-like structure of Lemmy, Mbin and I guess Piefed* make them kind of the Alaska of the Fediverse; they're not really connected to the rest of it. The other platforms without the community structures interoperate; you can comment on a Peertube video from a Pixelfed account...but that doesn't work with Lemmy and I'm not convinced I've ever interacted with Mbin.

*I just can't keep up with all the meaningless names I'm expected to remember. Hell I can't do it for people. "You know who Jim Flinnigan is?" "No I don't." "He's the freshman state congressman from Wisconsin who's proposing the controversial pecan legislation." "Oh the nut bill guy. What about him?" -1/4th of every conversation with my father, because Jim Flinnigan could be a work buddy of his, someone somewhere in Hollywood in the last 90 years, or the Wisconsin nut bill guy. "You know who Flinn Jimmigan is, right?" "No I don't." "He was Edith Head's optometrist in the 60's." On top of that, there's hardware manufacturers, the trade names for their products, commercial software apps, open source apps, a new javascript framework comes out three times a leap second...

I feel this so hard in life... but also this particular community does make all of these interconnections between Fediverse products a very central point.

It's true that both Mbin and PieFed have far fewer users than Lemmy, in large part bc historically they both lacked an app, yet now both have at least provisional support from some app or another, so there may be many more users of them in the future. Just search this very post for e.g. fedia.io (an Mbin instance, possibly the largest one iirc) or PieFed.social and you'll see that these other, non-Lemmy members of the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever part of the Fediverse are already here.:-)
Flinn Jimmigan

That's it, we have our new name
- Wait, was that the nut bill guy or eye doctor to the costume designer to the stars?

Feditriad/feditrinity???

Jk. I think forumverse works fine, i guess. Threadi sounds weirder imo but that's just personal opinion

I like how this image combines Trinity from The Matrix with a heavy amount of Samuel Jackson from Pulp Fiction, with just a soupçon of Greta Thunberg mixed in:-).
Forumverse isn't too bad
- Fediforums? could have Fediblogs for the masto/microblogging sites