I had a microwave-air fryer combo that broke last week. It's been agony trying to replace it because I bought it for $150, and now they're going for like...$300-$400. Even a solo microwave is like $180 for a decent one.
Yeah I inherited a built-in microwave with the house I purchased. The microwave model was from like 2009 but it still worked so I just kept using it. Then recently it died - turns out it is some obscure form factor that is no longer made, so if I want to replace it I have to either find "new old stock" from 2009 or I have to tear out half my kitchen. Awesome.
My parents had this exact problem recently. They were able to buy a model of their 2010 over-the-range GE microwave from some guy who goes to Amazon warehouse auctions as a hobby. No idea how they found the guy, but they have a working one now, and it was cheaper than ripping out the kitchen exhaust system for sure.
I spent $150 on our microwave within the past few years in the U.S., however it was name brand and a special miniature model that would leave us with more counter space. If you buy a no name brand you can still get one for under $100, but that also means ordering from like Amazon or something, which is hit or miss.
I do think $100-$150 is reasonable for a good microwave that will last!
I think it's the air-fryer part that makes it substantially more. I agree that a microwave can be bought for $40 in USA. My partner asked for an air fryer two years ago and I probably spent $120 getting one of the best ones on Amazon, but there were cheaper ones for sure. I don't know anything about prices above that or prices today.
I could probably get a $40 no-name microwave from Walmart or something, but I don't know if it'll last more than a couple of years and I don't really want to create more e-waste (hence "a decent one" in my og comment). I've been looking at Panasonic ones because those seem to be the ones people recommend for longevity.
Additionally, it's the combo air fryer/microwave that's troublesome to find under $250 here. I don't really have the counter or storage space currently to have multiple appliances, so my previous appliance was a huge convenience.
If any Canadians have any input or recommendations, I'd be happy to hear it!
When households started having 3+ children who won't bother cooking.
Idk if is a generational thing, but I've noticed most people my age won't even bother to learn how to cook SMH.
I'd argue no product needs ads, just unbiased reviews. Ads just add bias to whatever company has the better marketing team, not necessarily the best product.
Well, the products themselves might need it. Some of that garbage would not sell without an ad campaign. But yeah, for consumers, they're typically more misleading than informative, unless it is an ad for a commodity.
I had one of those. For all that infomercials are functionally the worst thing in the world for getting a valid perspective on a product, that thing cooked everything they said it did, and it did it deliciously.
Microwave companies twisting their nipples - and be like what are you going to do? not buy one? (laughs mynaically and spends marketing budget on cocaine)
I was gonna say both of my microwaves were free hand me downs. One is a nice one that goes over the top of your stove. Apparently they had an undersized breaker because it kept tripping and blamed it on the microwave. I hardly use it but it works no issues! Free microwaves for all!
I imagine it's because their use is evident (no need to advertise what they do, since they've been common in households for the past half century), and they've likely peaked in terms of function. You can't really improve much beyond what we have now, the last great advancement in the microwave was probably the turntable for consumer units, and the moving fields that commercial units have. You're limited in power output by the outlet you plug it into, so "faster cooking" is a no-go (unless you stuck a 240v plug on the end, and good luck getting that to fly with your average consumer in the US, we already find those annoyingly sparse for dryers and ovens and such) -- what else can you innovate to differentiate your microwave from every other microwave on the market?
what else can you innovate to differentiate your microwave from every other microwave on the market?
My ideal microwave:
800W, always full power
A dial to set the time/make it go
Pull door to open, not pushy-button-open-nonsense
I have never needed to use power variation, defrost settings, popcorn button, or any of the other junk.
Innovate through simplicity. Less features means less to go wrong, and cost savings that can be put into either making it cheap or improving component quality.
I discovered the existence of those on online forums, it literally blew my mind. Manufacturers engineering microphones in microwaves because US people can't be arsed to stay for two fucking minutes next to the oven. Fucking unbelievable.
I briefly rented an apartment with a microwave that was also a toast oven. Grandet, it had a dumb, slow, digital screen to control. But it was really nice inside. There was no turn table but still heated everything evenly, and due to its size, it was much more efficient that a normal oven at baking. The door also opened forward like an oven.
That is to say, I agree with you thst I want a dumb dial, but there are some nice features out there that I wouldn't mind having.
Pretty much agree, would probably prefer 700w myself. Get rid of the damn clock too. There are commercial grade ovens like this. The consumer ones are packed full of total crap (looking at you motorized rotational platter). I've always wondered why a couple of infrared thermometers to allow for a closed loop heat cycle hasn't been done though. I think I'd like that if it worked halfway decently even if just for soup/liquid (more homogeneous).
One could almost say the same thing about cars. But there are ads for those everywhere.
But similarly, you never see an ad for a stove/oven anymore.
I think you’ll occasionally see an ad for a fridge or washer/dryer but it’s usually actually an ad for a local appliance retailer. The manufacturers themselves don’t seem to make ads.
The main difference between an airfryer and traditional convection oven is less space to heat (i.e heats up quicker) and the heat is on all the time. A conventional convection oven will cycle the heat on and off.
So yeah, the same core technology, but with different tradeoffs.