Right.
You said it! Shifting right, right?!
Dems are controlled opposition
Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics
Bold to assume there will be another cycle.
assuming therell be a next time
By "centrist" you mean "someone between the moderate right Dems and the extreme right Reps"?
Harris’s Hope: Getting Right-Leaning Voters to Shift to the Left
"Democrats see a narrow opening to peel away center-right voters bothered by abortion bans and by the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol."
"Ms. Harris and her allies have made persuasion of moderate and even right-leaning voters a central aspect of their closing strategy"
Yup. It's one of the least representative and most corrupt so-called modern democracies in the world.
Good question. That's the problem with labeling shit by a term that gets hard to nail down instead of expressing the intent behind your usage of the word. My definition of a centrist (the unwarpped version) is someone in the middle of left and right, but everyone on the Internet hears in the middle of Dems and GOP, which puts them quite to the right.
The more we use labels that are constantly evolving the less we can communicate effectively
They need to keep garnering that valuable Cheyney endorsement
My bad I thought he was a Democrat. I thought obama had a slim majority in the senate in the first half of his first term? I'll have to double check
"Ha ha sitting out and letting the far-right win will really show them"
I'm.. I'm just so tired, man. I'm just going to lie down here and die, I guess.
Ha ha, refusing to appeal to the left and letting the far right win will really show them.
The thing though is that you NEED a centrist government. Just as a pure right wing government ignores the wishes of many, a pure leftwing government will so too.
I'm not even saying it should be 50/50, you just need actual honest representation.
That ain't ever going to happen though with the current first past the post and winner takes all system. You need a representative democracy
Unfortunately, I have to disagree there. Right-wing politics are fundamentally hierarchical and anti-democratic. Going for Centrism there is saying that wolves should have a say in decisions related to fencing and whether barns should have doors.
No. You honestly don't.
The Democrats in the US fall to the right of conservative parties in other countries, and we seem to be the only modern country that can't get it's shit together.
One key point in politics is you never have only two possible views. The simplistic notion of left versus right doesn't make sense at all because people have a wide variety of priorities and problems and needs. It's convenient to use those terms, but don't fall into the trap of thinking that they could ever define what's actually happening.
Anyway, specifically in the US in the last few decades, what people call the centrists are actually pro-corporate politicians. They will vote for whatever makes money for big companies. And we don't need people representing big companies.
Depends how you define the left. Really, representative democracy is a leftist idea compared to most historical governments.
Ignoring people's wishes is OK when those wishes are to hurt other people.
Depends on what you mean by "centrist". If you mean what the US calls centrist, then hell the fuck no. Actual centrism is considered "radical left" around here. If you mean "centrist" by the rest of the world standards, then we can talk.
Political views are a bell curve
The left doesn’t show up to vote
I'm not so sure about that. As an outside observer, it seems pretty obvious to me that the lack of a left vote in the US is because they do not have a notable left wing party. The best way to win someone's vote is to represent them. If nobody represents someone nobody will get that vote.
Obviously to actually fix that you'll need election reform, this is pretty much the expected outcome of a single vote FPTP winner-take-all system.
Look I voted because I'm a big picture guy and I see where you are coming from but the Democrats made it very clear they didn't give a fuck about the left vote this time around.
Maybe this time they will learn that if people want a conservative they will just vote for the psycho-conservative party that actually delivers than the milquetoast-conservative party that crows about "unity" and "woke" shit all the time.
Haha who am I kidding
There aren’t enough leftists in America to win an election without catering to multiple ideologies.
Democrats were catering to leftists and moderates and never-trumpers. Because there is a lot of diversity in our country and it is a politicians job to work for all their constituents not just a certain ideology.
Leftists have a track record of not voting if they have to compromise.
While I agree, it would probably help if the Dems actually tried being left-wing for once, rather than always trying to be Republicans-lite
Because the center right to right wing Dem leadership simultaneously ignore the wishes of the Left and take them for granted, offering them little to nothing in the way of improvements to the atrocious status quo.
Give people something to vote FOR, instead of only a greater evil to vote AGAINST, and you'll get much higher voter turnout.
For example, another received wisdom is "young people don't vote" and guess what? When they were given the chance to vote for their bodily autonomy in Kansas, young women voted at a higher rate than men of any age combined.
The last time the Dems campaigned on going further left, 2008, was their biggest win in decades. When Obama then governed further to the right and campaigned for reelection accordingly, he won by a MUCH smaller margin.
How dare you suggest that the best way to get my voice represented is to use my voice in the first place.
