Epstein showed me photos of Trump with topless young women sitting in his lap, claims author
Epstein showed me photos of Trump with topless young women sitting in his lap, claims author
Controversial writer Michael Wolff says Epstein kept the pics in his safe–which the FBI later seized.
Summary: Author Michael Wolff alleges that Jeffrey Epstein showed him photos of Donald Trump with topless young women at Epstein’s Palm Beach home. Trump’s campaign has denied the claims, calling Wolff a “disgraced” writer. Wolff also expressed skepticism about Epstein’s death, suggesting it was implausible but also questioning the possibility of a cover-up.
Trump has definitely molested children. He's a serial rapist whose hang-out buddies are some of the world's most prominent pedophiles.
Even if trump wasn't specifically asking for children, there's no way he's checking IDs before he sexually assaults victims of trafficking.
Not that I support the guy at all, but you lot really need to stop saying "this is definite" and "it is fact" every time there's an allegation made about something you don't like. Not just Trump; anything. Unless you are one, y'all need to save that kind of dumb shit for dumb people, even if you like what you're hearing.
Take Trump out of it for a second. This is literally a scenario of...
"A guy says a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy "
Could be true. Could be not true. It's hardly the kind of information that should be landing a half-competent mind onto a decision.
Well, I'll just add that even if this is true it will sway nobody.
Trump is a rapist caught on tape bragging about how easy it is to assault women. Very few Trump supporters are unaware of this fact and yet that are still Trump supporters.
That he's assaulted women simply isn't newsworthy for his fascist followers. He's hurting the right people and that's all that matters to them.
Sadly, about the only thing he could do to lose support would be to insult his followers or the USA. They'll forgive him for pretty much anything else, including rape and murder.
Not only caught on tape, he was found civilly liable for raping E. Jean Carrol.
Take Trump out of it for a second
But then it becomes a completely different scenario.
Trump has repeatedly admitted to molesting women, he's bragged about forcing his way into women's locker rooms, he joked openly and without judgement of epstein's love of kids, he has scores of sexual assault allegations, he has enough money and clout to cover up his rapes and he's been convicted of illegally covering up legal but embarrassing sexual encounters.
Trump has definitely molested children, it is a fact. It's literally beyond a shadow of a doubt.
What you're after is news pieces that confirm your position. Dangerous.
then it becomes a completely different scenario.
No. No it does not.
At the end of the day...
A guy is saying a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy.
Literally, this is "Trust me, bro."
Be it Trump, Elmo, or a box of Skittles, this preface does not change. Acknowledge that first, then you can go start conversations about Trump molestations as much as you like.
Don't be like a red hatter and get caught in echo chambers.
No half competent mind is voting for trump unless they are in the top .01%
Thank you for being a wise thoughtful person, im canadian so it doesn't matter how I feel, just wanted tonsay it's nice to see some civility here
Duur let's remove the statement from the context to prove I am not afraid to use logic to defend a pedophile. You do understand how fucking tone death this is.
You didn't seem to understand that workout proof we can't accuse trump, even tho he is a horrible piece of shit that deserves to rot in jail. As much as I'd love to see him get arrested and imprisoned, we cannot simply take someone's word that someone else did those horrible things, otherwise trump would have already made all of his enemies go to jail with his stupid bullshit accusations. I also think that trump very very likely did those things, but for the justice system we need proof, and someone saying that someone else did something isn't proof, it's hearsay and not taken as evidence by law
"A guy said some dead guy did something he is known for doing, like a lot" has some measure of credibility with the common person on the street.
You must be one of the special ones.
That's just confirmation bias. You assume it's true because it makes sense given other things you know.
If I make up a fact that you are a technology enthusiast, people can assume it's true, you are using Lemmy, it makes sense. And it might be true, but it doesn't change the fact I completely made it up.
It makes it more possible but still proves nothing.
What do they call young women?
You probably wouldn't risk a lot by putting your money on "too young".
If you got to ask that question it's pedophile status
Legal. Probably why they used that term.
Legal. Probably why they used that term.
I doubt it.
There's no point mentioning it at all if the topless women were obviously legal, but plenty of reasons to be unclear if they were obviously underage.
Mentioning epstein and "young" women very clearly implies underage, without opening the door to defamation.
None of the Epstein info has been released. Still.
I’ll just leave this here
And it also must be mentioned that the case was dropped due to some very definitely extralegal threats and strong-arming of the victim and her family.
His voters know. Or they are idiots. The propaganda brigades can appeal to their ignorance as cult members, on the other side they have to appeal to "both sides are just as bad" indifference.
So fucking what? I'm sure lots of guys have had half naked women sitting on their lap at one point during their life.
As much as I dislike trump I have to say most men I know have been to a strip club and this isn't something significant without more to the story.
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Show the peepee tape or sit down. No one gives a shit about, I heard once or I saw something one time...shit or get off the pot
Don't get me wrong, I think it's very plausible that a millionaire in the 80's/90's would have done gross stuff with children, but until there's evidence I can't say it happened.
Now his multiple documented cases of serial assault are another situation.