People are discovering the truth about their biological parents with DNA—and learning that incest is far more common than many think.
The geneticist Jim Wilson, at the University of Edinburgh, was shocked by the frequency he found in the U.K. Biobank, an anonymized research database: One in 7,000 people, according to his unpublished analysis, was born to parents who were first-degree relatives—a brother and a sister or a parent and a child. “That’s way, way more than I think many people would ever imagine,” he told me. And this number is just a floor: It reflects only the cases that resulted in pregnancy, that did not end in miscarriage or abortion, and that led to the birth of a child who grew into an adult who volunteered for a research study.
Most of the people affected may never know about their parentage, but these days, many are stumbling into the truth after AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests.
One in 7,000 people, according to his unpublished analysis, was born to parents who were first-degree relatives—a brother and a sister or a parent and a child. “That’s way, way more than I think many people would ever imagine,”
Now I'm not walking around thinking I'm living in a porn movie, but a rate of 0.014% is not what I would call shocking.
And this number is just a floor: It reflects only the cases that resulted in pregnancy, that did not end in miscarriage or abortion, and that led to the birth of a child who grew into an adult who volunteered for a research study.
Either way, what number of parent raping and impregnating their child or sibling raping and impregnating their sibling would be shocking to you? Because to most people it's probably "anything that isn't zero".
It's shocking to you that rape exists? Clearly its a bad thing and shouldn't happen, and it's upsetting, but I would disagree that most people would be shocked if you told them "more than zero rapes happened this year".
And this number is just a floor: It reflects only the cases that resulted in pregnancy, that did not end in miscarriage or abortion, and that led to the birth of a child who grew into an adult who volunteered for a research study.
Meaning that this could be an indication of a wider incest....problem?......trend?.....idk....
I’ve been thinking it’s pretty common for a while, just because of how common a version of it with plausible deniability for the downsides (step siblings, etc.) is in porn. I know people say it’s just to appeal to people who really like it and the rest can just mute, but that’s very unconvincing. I always have porn muted, because the sounds don’t do much for me and just about every person I talk to about this (not a lot, so grain of salt) is surprised that anyone would mute as a rule. Secondly, I don’t think you really need words to pick up on the incest vibe.
My theory about all the step sibling porn is that they’re trying to get you to pay for the “normal” porn. “Yes you can watch it for free…but wouldn’t it be better if it wasn’t so weird?” I don’t think most people find those story lines appealing.
Sibling or other incestuous roleplay is super common actually. The step sibling stuff on porn sites afaik was once again enforced from their payment providers or advertisers. Because people who aren't related, but acting like they are, are apparently turning the world into Sodom & Gomorrah, and based on some of those weird virgin or conspiracytard comments here it seems that some people actually do believe this too.
I think the idea is that step porn is basically just normal porn past the first few opening lines.
Normal people will just skip that bit and watch.
People into incest will watch the first few lines.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of porn makers have tried to split the baby and ended up alienating both audiences. People into incest don't like the whole "step" thing, because it's not real incest. And people who don't like incest don't like the "step" thing, because it's too close to real incest.
Essentially, I think porn producers think it's a moneymaker, but it's really just bad porn production.
It’s 100% not my thing, but, y’know, neither is scat. I’m just assuming someone likes it because it’s everywhere. Another user suggested it’s to get people to pay for non-incest porn, which sounds possible, though the porn companies would have to be willing to collude about that. I’m not sure if that’s likelier than that people are just ashamed about it.
The UK actually has a big issue with incest. Especially with cousins. Causes loads of child fatalities.
Really big issue with people from Asia, incest is the norm there.
Edit for those downvoting me is this a recorded issue. It's been in the news. Just because it doesnt fit the narrative or we arent meant to talk about those things doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Yes. They aren't illegal apparently. White people in the UK don't marry their cousin from my understanding though. So it becomes racist to infringe on other cultures I guess, eventhough it is the UK and UK culture should be what's important.
Fun fact, Charles Darwin married his cousin. It used to be a more common among white Britons (and other Europeans, especially royalty lol), but it's rare now. It is indeed quite common among Britons of Pakistani heritage, buts it's becoming rarer. And the risk of genetic defects is actually quite small. I don't think it can be considered incest when its legal.
There is a theory that the reduction in cousin marriage in Europe reduced the power of clan groupings and led to the more indivualistic liberal culture we have now, with both good and less desirable effects (basically, more freedom but weaker communal bonds)
actually, I won't upvote you. Incest isn't the norm anywhere you fuckwit.
Heres is a source. So you can get fucked, obviously you don't know what you are on about this is why information is so important and not just making out you know things.
"follows the health of 13,500 babies born in Bradford Royal Infirmary between 2007 and 2011. It the largest study of its kind in the UK to date."
"60 percent of the Pakistani mothers in the study were married to a blood relative."
If 1/7000 kids are the product of incest, I'm guessing that 1//500 have been lied to about their biological father; looking at you royal family of England.
A bit off topic but, here is the latest episode from the podcast Citations Needed. They talk about the Atlantic's shitty politics. It made me not want to give them any views.