The world isn’t on track to meet its climate goals — and it’s the public’s fault, a leading oil company CEO told journalists. Exxon Mobil Corp. CEO Darren Woods told editors from …
Hey guys, can we keep the slapfights to a minimum, please? Just had to delete a whole thread where everyone was just insulting the fuck out of each other.
"Groundbreaking ‘Carbon Majors’ research finds 100 active fossil fuel producers including ExxonMobil, Shell, BHP Billiton and Gazprom are linked to 71% of industrial greenhouse gas emissions since 1988."
This assumes they just make product and shove it back into the ground.
We use it. Our parents used it.
The only thing they're guilty of is getting in the way of new development to greener tech, which is a massive thing, don't get me wrong. Edit by get in the way I mean lobby to mask impacts and block changes, which is fucking terrible.
The EPA and NASA also knew about climate change but our governments were corrupt and lobbied by these guys. THAT is a problem.
But the fact that oil was processed and consumed is not a corporation's fault, they produced it for customers. THAT PART ALONE is our fault.
If you use fuel, plastic etc, you're part of the problem.
If you corrupt government and hinder progress you're the source of the problem.
One is much worse than the other. EDIT BEING
THE SOURCE IS WORSE! consumers have skin in the game but corrupt government officials (who engaged with lobbyists are worse)
I don't entirely disagree. I'm not going to completely deny consumer responsibility, but I think it's important to hold corporations much more accountable. My reasons are: sabotaging alternatives (this is huge), tons corporate money in politics (actively preventing change even if people want it), climate denial and false research (lying), and making sure everyone but themselves gets blamed when problems can no longer be hidden.
In the case of manufacturing, when environmental controls are implemented the corporations affected often just ship the work abroad. So even if citizens manage to make change in their own country the corporations just export the damage. You may say that people could just stop buying, and there is that aspect of consumer responsibility I've acknowledged. However, when all the options are bad it's not realistic to say everyone should have forgone all cars, phones, or electricity produced by fossil fuels.
The general population has been deliberately denied information and agency to enact change. This latest statement in OP's article is just a continuation of decades of corporate greed over truth and the environment.
I don't get why this 100% correct take us being downvoted so hard, but I suspect that some heads are in the sand, just like with the O&G CEOs.
Don't be like them. I mean I know this is Lemmy, but just for a minute, don't be a lemming. Everyone plays a role here. The industry plays an outsized one but we also all opt for comfort and convenience and avoid dealing with the consequences. We also don't want to be told we are wrong, or what to do. It's a potent combination so keep that shit in mind when you're going about your day. You think they'd keep making soap in plastic bottles and putting them at eye level in Wal-Mart if we all collectively decided bar soap was better and shunned "body wash"? There is a reason things are this way and each of us contributes to the cause of that reason.
Unfortunately that will quite literally never happen. We're all talk. We love to trot out the guillotine talk and then go back to doing whatever we're doing that isn't violence... :(
I don't know about you but I get zero representation from any of my government reps, and writing them has never mattered so what the FUCK are we supposed to do?
It isn't the public's fault, the owner class's opinion is the only one out government follows.
It would be an absolutely terrible tragedy if an angry crowd of people dragged him out into the street and beat him with tire irons, and no one managed to film it.
The gullible do not deserve to be exploited or even punished just for being gullible. I've always hated this completely irrational, sociopathic way of thinking.
You know if this cunt and his ilk hadn't spent the last century poo-pooing all the alternatives and lobbying themselves into being used more, he might have a point.
Aha, so the real way to solve climate change is to buy more of your oil, but also build prohibitively expensive infrastructure to capture the pollution and shove it back underground.
Thanks $20mil a year earning, fracking championing, 17% increase in company carbon output making, caught on tape obstructing Congress climate legislation oil company CEO. Maybe you'll get to be Trump's secretary of state this time around like your predecessor was.
Then put that dumb slob scumbag in prison because he’s committing crimes against humanity. We KNOW that EXXON is to blame and their history is disgusting. It’s BEEN KNOWN since the 1990’s. Quit playing America.
And environmentalists need to start voting and quit being dickheads for big business.