Nancy Pelosi Gets a Surprising New Primary Challenger
Nancy Pelosi Gets a Surprising New Primary Challenger
Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26024422
Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.
Why the fuck is this ghoul still running in the first place? Please primary her ass CA.
As long as one of them wins idc. If one of them loses the seat in the house then this is gonna be the fuck around found out portion.
Term and age limits will be needed if the Constitution is improved, alongside ditching first-past-the-post voting. A great deal of America's rot comes from the stagnation caused by career politicians who simply exist to occupy a seat.
Sure, we might lose 'wise' leaders, but it has become pretty damn clear that archaic politicians are the plugged toilets of Democracy. All they do is cause a mess if not promptly handled. The Geronocrats must go.
The fact that this would've put Bernie out of a job years ago is a hard no for me. Campaign finance reform so we don't have a bunch of corporate stooges in power, and getting rid of FPTP make more sense to me. Better alternative candidates will have a chance, as well as life-ling civil servants who are proven and lovee by their communities
Fuck yes, let's go with it!
- Politician age range 30-50
- Background check
- Minimum Education Requirements
- Understands science (including biology) and technology thoroughly at minimum high school level
- 200 hours of community service working with the poor
- 200 hours of community service working with the elderly
- 200 hours of community service working with immigrants
- Debt, Funding and Corporate Alliance check
- Blocked from stock market trades along with immediate family
- No bribes
- No Lobbying
- No ex C-STAFF for major companies.
- Paid enough to be single yacht and a summer home kind of rich.
What else we need in here or what have I gone wrong on?
All these fucking useless Democratic leaders are so selfish. You've failed and failed over and over again, miserably, yet you still insist on trying to lead? Do the right thing. Step down. Quit. It's truly disgusting how they've strangled their party and country with their incompetence.
And let progressives who actually have plans to stop Trump win for once? Never!
That's not surprising. The left has been looking for someone capable of primarying her for years.
And for years she's always held onto her position because of name recognition and money from Super PACs. Ratfucking is a bipartisan tool.
Fucking ghoul looks cel shaded.
this ghoul still alive?
Kick her the fuck out. Kick all the useless democrats out. Fuck all of them. They lost. They're done. Go the fuck away.
The challengers we need are to the entire DNC. They are a failure at representative government
“I’ve got some news: I’ve decided to run against Nancy Pelosi to represent San Francisco in Congress. I know some of you might be surprised that Speaker Emeritus Pelosi is running again, but she is—for her 21st term!” Chakrabarti’s post read.
I fucking hate boomers in political office. They refuse to let go of the reins. They want to hold on until death. Selfish.
I saw a video last year asking people in the UK about USA politics and someone commented how old our leaders are.
I think she is too old to be a boomer, that generation was 1946 to 1964. She was born 1940
Yeah, she's Silent Generation, same as Biden.
This strengthens the point being made though
Meh, it's not the age thing for me. And I don't care if someone works until they choose to retire, as long as the people want them. I think ageism and the appeal to some magical term limits thing is rather useless.
I hate just how disconnected her comment was about the insider trading. It's infuriating. Republicans do it, too, but she somehow became the face of this.
I don't know that her or others like her are doing anything to bring up the next set of leaders, though. I also don't really see her fighting for progress. The age thing, the number of terms - entirely secondary and honestly, it's just red herring in my view. All one has to do is look at Bernie.
I think the age thing is a problem, if for no other reason than that very old politicians won't have to live as long in the world that they create. Sure, for politicians of good faith, that wouldn't matter much; but many of the ones currently in office would absolutely trade our future for their own temporary enrichment, knowing that they won't be here when the chickens come home to roost.
It's absolutely an age issue. When was the last time you met someone over the age of 60 who was both good with computers and technology in general and also has never worked in the tech industry? Id also love to see the number of government elected officials who have ever suffered any sort of real poverty and compare their ages to their peers. I guarantee that spreadsheet alone tells a novel.
I want to see an enforced retirement age, a maximum age for first time election, and a strict term limit for all positions of government. I would also love to see all elected and appointed officials stripped of the right to financial privacy and a sort of jury system of a quarterly ethics board made up of citizens chosen at random to make review decisions on official government actions.
It's time citizens had more control over our government. They are employed by our tax dollars after all.
Ageism is fun. And also hate, but also fun.
Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC’s former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.
Fuck yes they do!
The message that could be sent by a champagne to kick NP out could start a left wing movement.
This is going to be a California Bubbly at best though. But they can be tasty too.
Good.
Much like the appeasers that enabled Hitler, history is going to look back on Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Jefferies, and other democrats who stood by and let all this happen on their watch without so much as a wimper.
Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Jefferies, and other democrats who stood by and let all this happen on their watch without so much as a wimper.
It's a big tent party of Chamberlains.
The Democrats need a vision, period.
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Vision? How about we start with a pulse?
GOOD.
Pelosi has been in congress for 36 years. To put this in perspective, that's longer than I've been voting. Time to retire.
It's longer than I have been alive. Some of my peers are raising children. She's been in office for an entire generation.
Yup. Early forties here. Not quite there for me, lol
No matter, your view on her, it really is time to retire, she is 84.
Meh, I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd rather it was based on merit and policy positions.
I DGAF about someone's age as long as they are still fit and they have the right policies. Assuming someone like AOC stays in until she's 84 and shows no sign of moving to the right and no sign of slowing down?
Going forward, I think we will very likely have even OLDER politicos than we do now, assuming breakthroughs on slowing down aging, even age reversal. Of course, that assumes that Bronzo the Clown and fElon and Brainwormz don't completely break our system of innovation and healthcare. But if it doesn't happen here, it will happen in other countries...so I don't think the ageism we see right now will itself age all that well...
It was time to retire 20 years past. It’s time to give back all the money she stole from her communities with all the insider trading bullshit.
I'd rather we judge on mental capacity and not on physical age (so that in theory wisdom is not lost), but there is something to be said for giving someone else a chance to drive the car.
Yeah, it's not just mental capacity, her decisions right now no longer will affect her. We should have a younger people whose these policies will also impact.
No, we need a physical age limit. Aside from needing to get new people in so that we can pass on institutional knowledge before their staffers are voting for them while they hang out in a nursing home.
The fact that we live in a gerontocracy is part of the reason we're in so much shit in general. Why should the 83 yo senator from Bumblefuckia give a fuck about climate change, they'll be dead way before it's a problem. Why do they care about proper financial regulations when it might impact their ability to insider trade and pass off their unearned wealth to their kids.
I don't have much hope in the voters. Last time a great challenger came along, Shahid Buttar in 2020, they still elected the geriatric choice. The DNC and Dem voters are the fucking worst. I mean, as long as you pretend the racist, fascist, ignorant, magats on the other side of the aisle don't exist.
Shahid Buttar
This dude fucking sucked. Like I'm glad pelosi got challenged, but he wasn't the guy. I'm much more excited about Chakrabarti. Though that is mostly association with AoC and tabula rasa projection.
Incumbents are hard to unseat.
Especially someone like pelosi who has been around so long.
Especially if you're a progressive running against a centrist incumbent.
You would think that the Democrat's consistent record of utter failure would count for something, but I think it has the opposite effect. The worse things get, the more insecure people feel. Insecurity makes voters risk-averse. Republicans capitalize on that with calls for a return to an American that never really existed. Democrats capitalize on it by making Democratic voters scared of new leadership.
I try to explain it with AIDS as an example. AIDS is a horrible disease, but it doesn't kill you. It just sets you up to die from another opportunistic infection like pneumonia. The fascists are pneumonia, and the neoliberals are AIDS. It's the fascism that kills you, but it's the neoliberalism that was the underlying cause that should have been dealt with.
I think that last line is in the DNC's mission statement
Oh they acknowledge that Republicans are fascist bigots all the time, they just keep trying to work with them. Always trying to compromise with them instead of voting against them.
SF is incredibly liberal, I could absolutely see Nancy losing and finally being forced to retire. Just gotta get people out to vote during the Primary.
Pelosi was elected when she was 41-42. Saikat Chakrabarti is 39, so only a couple years younger than when Pelosi was put into Congress. This is the perfect time for her to be forced to retire.
SF is incredibly liberal
It really isn't. Local politics in SF has long been a struggle between property developers and tech bros versus community-based groups. Pelosi, like Feinstein and Newsom, are from the corporate faction. And San Francisco has, over the past few decades, been changing into a theme park for trustafarians and high-tech drones, as artists, musicians and other interesting people have been priced out.
SF is incredibly liberal
That's the problem: Liberal = Neoliberal ≠ Left
The rich people who control just about everything LOVE her because her corruption enriches them as it enriches her and her stock broker husband.
The population in general, though? Probably much more progressive than Pelosi and will hopefully be heard this time.
Good! Fuck that old hag
They do need a bolder vision.
The older vision is just MAGA-esque billionaire worshipping without the racism.
Without the racism yet.
Hopefully a win can gain the democrats some momentum. Pelosi has been around way too long.
She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.
The exception that rule is someone like Ricky Henderson who just really openly and unselfishly liked playing baseball and played in the minor leagues for fun. He just kept playing baseball until he was 46: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hender003ric
I respect that. It was like weekend slow pitch for him.
She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.
She's already that.
cared before, a great deal for nancy, after two losses to the orange fascist, this last one i'm pretty sure does our democracy in for good, lady did her service, and in the end failed to keep the republic safe. she holds a seat in california, so i'd trust to have another fair election for state and federal reps there at least, pretty sure everywhere else won't though.
