Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert

No no....it was the one that justified everything he said and sane-washed it as being "not that bad".

Every non fox like news channel covered project 2025, and fox even had a few stories. Sure, there could have been more alarm bells raised, but not many down played the seriousness of it. You'd have to be completely ignorant of his intentions to think he wouldn't go through with almost everything he said he would. It's still on them for somehow not believing it.

Guess who's face is being eaten right now, dude? Its literally yours...lol Get a fucking clue. You picked this.

Hope you're enjoying Donald "Finish The Job" Trump.

Lemme know what the inside of the concentration camp is like. I hear it's to die for.

The right didn’t need help to divide the left this election. The left did it itself. The American left splintered into toxic little sub groups who all hated each other, saw each other as unworthy allies and called each other fascists for being even slightly right or even left of each other. Meanwhile the right was unified and laughing at the left who so easily felll for the right’s manufactured war

Those who stayed home hold some responsibility

Second most of the responsibility, actually (actual Trump voters take the most responsibility). They screwed up, and now we're all paying the price.

But now we have bigger fish to fry. There’s a constitutional crisis on, and a united front is needed against the right.

Also true. If Trump voters and non-voters realize that they screwed up badly and want to work to fix it, then we need to accept their apology, forgive them, and let them stand with the rest of civilized humanity in countering Trump, Must, and their goons.

Eh.

I'm not ready to forgive the utterly ignorant fools who abstained from voting or voted 3rd party and helped put us in the situation we're in.

They do not deserve to be forgiven. Especially this fast. I like accountability.

The left is divided already. In the ways these folks voluntarily decided to do. It's not now that others are pointing it out that the divisions are occurring. How much more gentle do others need to be around the ones who made this mistake? How much more hand holding?

Every single one that voted 3rd party helped trump...and there are tons on Lemmy.

Fuck the Nazis, but also fuck the conservative Muslims that can't vote for a woman.

"Not voting for the killers" is REALLY a stretch here.

Honestly if Palestine is your one and only policy, not voting was the right choice.

It was well known from Trump's first term, and everything the man has ever said, that he would encourage attacks on Palestinians vs the Dems who simply stood by and let it happen.

There's a big difference between not voting for someone who won't help and actually voting for someone who hates you and will unapologeticly help your enemy kill you.

Trump won the national popular vote by 1%

There was a 2% reduction in voter participation from 2020 to 2024.

So, yeah. Idiots staying home because there wasn’t a perfect candidate did impact the election in a significant way.

You staying home was a vote for Trump, and a whole lot of people are going to pay for your shitty behavior.

Well, strawman arguments and calling me names is certainly a good argument. I guess?

No USA voter is the victim of genocide...what the fuck are you even talking about???

Time for you to go back to grade school and work on your reading comprehension.

The post, and the commenter you're trying and failing to talk down to, are talking about Muslim American voters. They are not directly genocide victims. They are people living in comfort in America failing to protect those in Palestine by making smart decisions at the polls.

I was so happy when she took over because she'd have the freedom to distance herself from Biden on the issues that were killing him (apart from the obvious senility). Instead she just kept trying to make everyone knew she approved of everything he did. What a terrible terrible mistake.

They didn’t need all Muslim voters.

They certainly acted like they wanted zero of them.

We need to be very clear that white people, in almost every demographic - men, women, 18-55, 55+, non-college educated went solidly, majority Trump. THAT is the biggest problem, and it’s what needs to be fixed if the Republicans are ever going to get dislodged. Blaming groups that “only” voted 75-80% Harris is not helpful, and is exactly the kind of unproductive sniping the Republicans encourage and celebrate when we do it.

If you are not a white male billionaire, and you voted for Trump, or didn’t vote, you’ve made life worse for yourself (and everybody else) in multiple, awful ways, and should feel stupid about it. I’m sure most people will figure that out eventually, even if it is too late. Asking people how Trump has made their life better rather than telling them they’re idiots will probably get them there faster.

The Democratic party’s strongest, winning platform would to directly address the needs of people who work for a living, which is basically everybody, as opposed to the current “we rig the economy for billionaires… LESS!” Yes, Biden actually did many good things for working people, but he mixed it in with enough fellating the 1% that is was easy to make the (correct) conclusion that the wasn’t all in on it. Heck, Trump actually said some of the right things on that front. He was obviously lying, and anybody with a memory better than a goldfish (less than half the voters it seems) knew that, but at least he pretended to care about it.

Democrats need to focus on that. If that messaging ever got going seriously, Republicans would be too busy panic screeching about communism to spend their time telling people which bathroom they could use. The reason making tje economy work for the 99% isn’t front and center is because neither the Republican nor the Democratic leadership will allow that conversation to happen.

Stop assuming we're pro-dems and not just anti-trump.

This is the shit that drives me nuts. No matter how many fucking times you explain it, they just cannot wrap their heads around this for some reason. Or they refuse to.

I'm not assuming you're pro-dems, I'm pointing out that their loss is entirely attributable to their own political mis-calculation on top of their efforts to gaslight Americans about their roll and knowledge of the crimes being committed on their behalf.

Blaming voters for reacting to the Democrats' policy decisions - including the moderates they alienated - is simply yet another attempt to obscure the facts that lead us to this moment.

Gaza is fully leveled and Trump had nothing to do with it.

They could have defended the lives of Palestinians and acknowledged that the genocide was happening.

It was Biden's press secretary and SOS who got up on a podium everyday and assured the press and those "other voters" that Israel wasn't doing anything wrong. They drew that line themselves, not anyone who was protesting the genocide.

I find arguments that the non-voters shouldn't be blamed for Trump because party leadership didn't properly encourage them to vote for Harris idiotic. Everyone has a duty to educate themselves about their vote. Shifting blame to the DNC is both patronizing and destructive. The DNC sucks.... You know who else sucks? people who didn't stand up against Trump. Those people are grown ass adults who actively helped a fascist by doing nothing but bitch.

She should have done all of that, but they would have just found a different wedge issue.

This is some revisionist bullshit. She told you how bad it will be. You said nuh uh.

Now the leopard is eating your face.

Y'all have so much hindsight, but ignore the complete stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on politics in this country. Coming out in support of Palestine would have been the death knell for any candidate.

Don't overestimate the size of your demographic just because you choose to live in a bubble.

Doesn't matter - their technique will always find the greatest wedge issue because they start by spreading insane amounts of shit and use monitoring to find which ones are gaining traction. All this is a guess, but it's such an obvious strategy that I'd be amazed if it wasn't how they're working.

I'm from the U.K., so I was lucky enough to experience what I believe was a PoC of this technique during our referendum for PR voting. That time, there were two wedge issues: baby incubators and - I hope I'm getting this right because my memory is hazy - bullet-proof vests for soldiers. Neither of those things were remotely related to the question... but as soon as they started to gain traction, they were pushed hard. Brexit was more money for the NHS. With Jeremy Corbin, it was support for Palestine. With Kamela, it was lack of support of Palestine. None of it needs to make sense, so long as it works as a wedge.

Yes, actual leftists oppose genocide.

Made this months ago:

Update: it did not go well

Haha okay. Next time try telling Democrats to make concessions to voters. Voters are too stupid to understand the lesser evil you keep talking about :)