Can we have some clarification on what "Usage Data" the app collects and shares with advertisers?

I think that the lack of further attempts backs up what lj shared a bit ago in the Discord. That's still a hell of a lot of tracking for folks who can't or don't want to pay, though.

FWIW that page is a bit deceptive , it's not saying it's collecting all of that data. The only info on that page is "146 tracking attempts from Google", which makes sense if it has Google ads.

Please note that the long list of things collected is what Google is known to collect, not necessarily that these are the things being collected. If you click on any other app that is also with Google trackers (practically every app listed on this page), you will find that the stuff listed are the same.

Holy hell. I'm glad I'm using DNS-level ad and tracker blocking. Shout out to NextDNS and RethinkDNS!

I would really love to know what ads are targeting low battery levels. Chargers and battery packs obviously. But I wonder what else being at 5% tells you about a person 😅

Wtf

Btw, what duckduckgo app is this? Not their browser?

I also don't see any weird activity on my adguard logs after subscribing to Ultra.

Mother of God!

No, it doesn't. Unlike Reddit, Twitter, or Threads, Lemmy offers a variety of apps. There are so many that there is something for everyone. Even a "professional" app that finances itself with advertising or a subscription is allowed. The special thing about Lemmy is the freedom of choice.

I don’t have an issue with a reasonable subscription, but hard pass on trackers, especially when you’re paying.

You're free to use any app you want. Some people prefer free open-source apps, some people want to pay for a quality app. It's good to have a choice unlike with Reddit. I don't understand people complaining about having additional choice because they don't like it.

I would one time pay for this, but a subscription feels meh.

My go-to analogy is Usenet. Back when usenet basically was the internet for a lot of people, you’d have access to a usenet server through your school, isp, or with a separate subscription to a usenet provider. Usenet itself was free and there were open source implementations of the client and server side components. There were also commercial implementations. The important thing was that net news ran on an open protocol that no company owned. Companies and individuals were free to do what they wanted.

I would not hesitate to buy a client that achieved the functionality of Apollo, or even Alien Blue. I didn’t really start using reddit until I had a good client, and I can see client-side issues being a hurdle to lemmy adoption. I’d prefer paying for a client over ad support. Still, the free and open source client community should be core going forward. I can even see the potential for a commercial server, once the community reaches critical mass in terms of content.

I’ve been involved with the foss community since my first linux install back in like 1994 or so. I remember when rms and esr were household names, so long as your household was a dorm room with cs majors. Like with linux (gnu/linux?) commercial and foss apps can co-exist, and like with linux there should remain a foss purist option in addition to the mixed mode option.

I don’t think the fediverse is facing a threat of commercial takeover - certainly not the lemmyverse. If anything, the threat is not onboarding enough people to be competitive with whatever reddit clone manages to launch in the next year or so, and which has the commercial backing to drive users to the service and have stable, scalable, and production quality code.

Yep lol. IDC how good your app is if I don't know what's it doing with my data I'm not paying!

I hope there will be a pro version where you can pay to opt out of all ad and track nonsense.

laughs in Voyager PWA

Same for me. Tried disabling personal data for all advertisers but you gotta go one by one, there's no Reject all option and there are way too many... so back to Connect.

I was just pointed towards infinity for Lemmy. It's pretty solid, open source, no ads

Same. I saw that line in the privacy policy, and immediately uninstalled

Same..

Same

The exact same for me, and I had just made a new account to use with sync for lemmy - logged in via sync, then read the privacy policy, logged out, and closed the app. I was crushed because now I couldn't even use the cool username I signed up with anywhere else either because now the admachines already knew it and probably already attached it to my device ID.

I've been using DDG for tracking, and Connect had all sorts of weird tracking when I used it. Check it out with some network monitor and make sure it's not sending back your info.

The point is we don't formally know.

Yea but does that prevent Google from getting that data via AdMob?

Blindly trusting someone are the people that usually fall for scams

GA can only collect what you specifically give it (clicks, touches, hovers...etc), so the developer should be able to be very specific here. Using GA by default only collects very basic impression info.

This can be deceiving for link aggregator apps, because it'll also pick up trackers that other sites are using, and not the app itself.

All the tracking code is in the ads library which isn't loaded after paying to remove ads.

I subscribed to Ultra and hasn't seen any weird activity on my Adguard logs. I guess the what the dev said about the ad SDK not being initialized when you subscribe is true.

I use adguard and everywhere that an ad was supposed to be it just said "sponsored content" lol. I paid for the ad free anyway because I like the dev and don't mind supporting him

Hey, it isn't paranoia if they really are out to get us, and we already know that they are.