egg🎵irl [Gender Non-specific] [Q&A Post]
egg🎵irl [Gender Non-specific] [Q&A Post]
Share some activities you've been interested in doing but couldn't do because you're closeted.
Transmasc, Transfem, Nonbinary, and Gender Non-Conforming answers are all welcome and encouraged here.
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Shaving. Now, that also does have something to do with low self-esteem and being scared about how I'd look without beard since I am bearded for half my life and didn't shave my face smooth since I was 16, but I'd like to try but then everybody and their mom would ask why and I don't want to answer (I'm a bad liar and don't feel comfortable lying, too).
Edit: I appreciate y'all wanting to help, but please stop. I didn't ask for advice, I'll probably eventually figure something out and I kinda feel pressured and pushed, it's really not great. Sharing your own experiences is fine, but more is really not needed (especially if you're suggesting coming up with excuses)
Hey, I'm just here after reading your edit, and I just want to say that you're totally valid.
I have a big bushy beard and I wear dresses and skirts and such. I know that I'm definitely in the minority, but fuck it, life's too short not to do what you want.
Ever since I was a kid I wanted a beard like my dad. Now that it's come fully in, I haven't shaved my face in a decade. It's at least as much a part of my identity as my femininity, and the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Anyway, I don't want to add to the pressure you're feeling. You're the only one who can say how you should live your life, and there's no wrong answers. But I've lived in the closet for a long time, and while I was there it might not have been comfortable, but it felt safe. But now that I'm out, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I get that. I didn’t shave my beard until the weekend before starting hormones. It was an armor I grew to protect myself (partly from seeing my face) and I let it go when it was time. I had the same reasons for not shaving sooner. So grow it until you’re ready to shed it sister. Your body is yours alone.
Been there, done that. What helped me was two things.
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Finding out nobody cared that much about my beard missing, except some close friends/partner but they also know me
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Just saying "I wanted to try something new" which is definitely not a lie :3
Honestly shaving makes a huuge difference. Even now, a couple of months into hrt and permanent hair removal the difference a fresh shave makes for my self-recognition in the mirror is astounding!
- Finding out nobody cared that much about my beard missing, except some close friends/partner but they also know me
It's mostly about my family, especially my mom. She's a different kind of judgmental sometimes. And she's the last person I want to get a sniff about me changing in any way.
Honestly shaving makes a huuge difference.
I know... I'm happy it's long pants season again so I can shave my legs and it hits completely different.
I might shave my face, too, but only when I don't have to meet with my family for a few weeks so I can grow some of my beard back. After New Year is probably gonna be good time since it's probably scarf season anyway.
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When I shaved and people noticed, I just told them I used to shave that way or that I've always preferred it this way, and the only reason I had a beard before was because I was so busy for a while and stopped shaving to save time, so I was just getting back to my normal habits. You can probably find a similar excuse, that you have always preferred it this way and you're just getting back into it.
I should emphasize: men shave all the time, there is nothing suspicious about shaving your beard, hard stop.
Yeah, I kinda wanna try shaving off my beard as well. It'd be a bit problematic for me though, all my ID has me with a beard, and i look completely different without it (photo ID gets checked a lot for work). Whole reason I grew it was because it's so dense and grows so fast shaving smooth regularly was a pain in the ass.
Rubbing your own smooth chin after a long time without shaving is so weirdly pleasant even though I can't find the words to describe the feeling properly.
Maybe keep trimming it shorter and shorter until it's gone?
I was able to use covid as an excuse as there was a chance I was going to go back to work in the labs and the advice to workers was to be clean shaven if possible. I don't miss it one bit and after the first time I met somebody I knew they never commented on it again.
When I was closeted I often thought about transitioning as just a way for me to finally wear dresses and skirts in public that I was secretly wearing at home. And when considering whether to take things further, I would weigh all the downsides of transition (the cost, the social stigma, the danger, relying on exogenous hormones the rest of my life, etc.) against those benefits and it would make them seem not worth it.
But in retrospect, transition was different than I thought - estrogen changed my mood and solved mental health problems I didn't realize were even problems, that I had lived with my whole life and had internalized as normal and just part of who I was. I would have never understood how important or necessary transition would be to my basic health and sanity.
So yeah, now I get to make and wear amazing outfits every day I would have never dreamed of before, but that's not really what makes transition worth it, it's like a side bonus. The truth is that I needed those exogenous hormones, transition wasn't choosing to need them, I needed them the whole time. The need wasn't optional - in a real sense transition wasn't optional.
I could have not transitioned, but the alternative wasn't staying cis. The alternative was not growing old.
That's about right.
It's funny how I held on and didn't transition for other people, but when I transitioned pretty much nobody cared that much. Transition felt impossible and so selfish before transitioning, yet on other side it seems like it was self-destructive to not transition and trivial compared to how difficult I thought it was going to be. (Though transition is difficult, don't let me mislead - it's just not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, and there are so many things that went better than I thought.)
I guess this is just a lesson in how easy it is to rationalize and build up your fears, and how you are your own biggest barrier.
I find that interesting because I really expected to wind up more butch than I did. I transitioned for the body and to be seen as a woman socially. I didn’t even really start wearing makeup until I learned eyeshadow while recovering from bottom surgery.
Huh, did you mean to respond to a different comment? Sorry, I'm just not sure how your story relates to mine. I'm interested though! What got you interested in eyeshadow at that point, and what was that process like?
Personally I learned makeup before starting hormones, and it was crucial for the months of waiting for my first appointment. There were times I became suicidal where makeup legit helped me recover emotionally. But I wouldn't expect myself to be butch, I'm a femme (even though I'm not straight).
Ask the cute guy to cuddle :c
- meet up with friends again
- (sounds weird, but) plan my future and not be so short sighted.
- Going climbing
- Wear super cool clothing
- Be gay <3 (and finding someone for me)
- Remove the large towels from my mirrors (mostly a transition thing tho)
- Maybe find interests which don't just serve as distractions from the status quo
- Hopefully invest into a different career path
- occasionally taking on an 'entertainer'-like character without it seeming naturally *masculine*
I never considered mirror towels thx!!!
Mother said I was being too dramatic, but they really do help. The only thing now is my reflective monitor screen...
I desperately want to do a spa day and get properly pampered...
Same! I spent way too many years depriving myself of that joy because of toxic masculinity.
Change my name. Care about my future.
Personally I like my name, it's a very nice and ambiguous name. I definitely need to work on that second one though.
wear the clothes i like and be comfortable in my body
Be comfortable in my body
Wear the clothes I like
Express my joy at this cute thing I just found
Feel good when I wake up in the morning
Openly express my love for the people I hold dearest to me
Go into stores like Victorias secret
Stop for 2 seconds to oogle the cute dress in the window of said vs
Paint my nails
Listen to certain music
Look too long at a third of the people I find attractive
Grow boobs
Ect ect could go on you get the idea