Not really. Democrats "idolized" their president so much they basically forced him out of the race for being too old. This applies to one side: Republicans.
Not really. I don't idolize ANY politicians and am happy to criticize even those I vote for when I think they aren't doing it right. No Dem politician is selling $100k watches etc. because Dems won't buy them.
You didn't buy the Biden NFTs?
Apparently, Trump is donating a bridge to all his ultra-platinum preferred choice diamond club voters. If I didn't dump all my money in Trump's amazing social media project (some say the best social media company ever), I'd be first up!
On the one hand, strippers want you to give them your money because that's why they're there.
On the other, it's weird to pretend strippers aren't real people with feelings who want to like and be liked in turn, just as much as anyone else.
The cynical "Don't idolize your politicians" line doesn't teach people to read the tea leaves and pick better leadership. It just teaches them to throw up your hands and assume everyone is the same.
At some level, you need to recognize strippers and politicians alike as complex humans with both material desires and higher ideals.
Recognizing these desires and ideals helps you know who is worth your time and investment.
The cynical “Don’t idolize your politicians” line doesn’t teach people to read the tea leaves and pick better leadership. It just teaches them to throw up your hands and assume everyone is the same.
Saying all politicians are the same just rewards the worst politicians because it means they face no electoral penalty for their failings, and the better ones gain no electoral advantage from not stooping to those lows.
Does it apply to both sides though, really?
No, actually, it doesn't.
But Return2Ozma hates Democrats so...
"This applies to both sides" How very brave of you to call out the people who drive around with Harris trucks to Harris parties decked out in their Harris jackets and hats, trading AI generated pictures of sexy Harris.
You know, those things that are real and really happen.
Look dingbat, calling Trump and his ilk "weird" is not idolizing their opponents, it's simply calling a spade a spade. If you're too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in, don't think trying to slip in a picture of a kitchen magnet is going to make it any better.
I buy all my Harris nfts with my Soros bucks they put on my vaxxine microchip every month.
So easy to pay bills.
You could take this from the point of view that if people feel they are being attacked on their views they become defensive which makes a change in beliefs impossible.
Do you just want to smear shit on these people, or do you want to affect change?
The world has chosen smear shit.
How very brave of you to call out the people who drive around with Harris trucks to Harris parties decked out in their Harris jackets and hats, trading AI generated pictures of sexy Harris.
KHive really did this shit back in 2020, though.
Also, consider the case of Eric Adams, a man who was constantly self-promoting and a serial liar and grifter, who is now indicted on a litany of charges all stemming from his Style-Over-Substance administrative practice.
calling Trump and his ilk “weird” is not idolizing their opponents, it’s simply calling a spade a spade
Kamala is also a Weird Politician. She talks weird. She believes weird things. She supports weird policies in order to appease a conflicting morass of regional interests. She's awkward and insincere and frighteningly nationalistic. Because that's what running for high office requires.
Practically everyone running for high office is. You have to be weird to think you should be President. It's a weird thing to think. Delusional and megalomaniacal, given the powers of the office and the history of its occupants.
If you’re too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in
If people say what they sincerely believe, they risk saying things that are unpopular. You can't run in a district of tens of millions of people (as a California AG or Ohio Senator must) and sound remotely unpopular. Your opposition will eat you alive.
So you end up with this phony caricature of a personality, making blith naive statements that only sound good superficially.
You come across as fake and weird because authentic and normal people won't be popular enough to win an election.
Mr. Both sides guy. 🙄
No one should be idolizing politicians. They work for their constituents.
It's one thing to buy a shirt or a cap, it's another to make it part of your identity.
Even shirts and caps are questionable. I'll make an exception for Obama because that was historic and his shit was actually cool.
But all the rest of them, donate if you want, but wearing Harris or Trump in public is just cringe.
"this applies to both sides" -🤓
Kamala is many things (most of them bad), a cult leader isn't one of them. Im all for dunking on Liberals (im a leftist), but that is just factually untrue.
To be fair, a really hot stripper once solicited me for prostitution. So, she thought I was minimally gross. That's a w.
or she needed the cash lol
Don't we all.
How much do you tip sex workers, 10%, 20%?
But Obama told me he really REALLY liked me!
incredible case of the comments proving the OP right, very well done everyone
"I don't think any politician is above criticism."
"Yeah sounds good."
"Including yours."
"NOW WAIT A MINUTE"
both sides
lmao, there are only two sides. Of course. Just Democrats and Republicans. Nobody else. Bernie Sanders doesn't even exist.
I don’t know, I’d have to see Trump pole dance first. /s
Be careful what you wish for.
A simple web-search shows ugly pictures.
Ready?Show
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I’ll never shame someone for enjoying themself. Chat, is this good form?
Maybe you should save this for the day after the election friend. People being delusional about how good Kamala will be is actually really good for us strategically at the moment.
Any cause benefited by stupidity is not a good cause. And that does apply to both sides.
For every cause, there exists some possible circumstance such that one or more individuals having a miscalculation would benefit that cause.
Proof: Take desired result R. Assume there exists some person P who is opposed to R. Let there be some action that P can take such that R becomes impossible. If there are no downsides to this action, then R will only occur if P makes a miscalculation. ⬜
Thus, if your maxim holds, then there is no such thing as a good cause.
A discriminant that labels all causes as "bad" is not useful.
Therefore, your maxim does not serve as a useful discriminant.
QED
There are no both sides. The two-party myth is nonsense. But stripper is really do exist.
In a first past the post electoral system, the 2 party system is the only system.
I get what you're saying, but let's please all recognize that our binary American choice is one party or the other. That doesn't mean they are both equal or that the Democratic Party is completely progressive and moral. It does mean that (until we have voting reform) we need to vote against fascism, racism, sexism, and stop the influence of giant corporations damaging our environment for their profits.
Citation link of Harris worshippers?
That literally doesn't exist. Unlike the Cult of Trump, people appreciate her genuineness, her honesty, her integrity, her intelligence, her warmth... To think that that rises to the level of "worship" is wild.
Agreed! Notice no one is replying with Harris equivalents.
Just count the number of blue "Not Going Back" hats you see! /s
Just count the number of blue "Not Going Back" hats you see! /s
Realistically they don't exist. But it messes with their narrative. They need to feel Superior. So they need to feel that the people who disagree with them must worship her or Trump. Because it certainly couldn't be that they have bad takes. Or thay people have reasonable things to disagree with them on. They know in their own minds that they are absolutely 100% correct. And if you disagree with them. It doesn't mean that you have anything about to say or a point. It just means to them that you are wrong.
Have you ever encountered the KHive?
That’s people who back her. I’m pretty sure you can back her and still be critical of some of her choices and actions.
They would never say they'd be ok with her being a dictator for one day. They are in a different universe from maga.
So no Harris equivalent?Saying she's a better choice than Joe or Trump is not idolizing. Take it from me, a coconut pilled internet brained phone banker.
Tbf, some people can have fun and this point that might look like pretending you're as crazy for her as can be
If I were asked, depending on the context I'd either say I'm coco for coconuts or fuck the DNC. It's like a only we can talk shit thing because ideally we want them to improve (context: two-party system)
Go to Twitter, say anything about her extremely right wing record as a senator and AG.
Bernie is idolized on the left for his character, for good reason. And even then, he's not above scrutiny. When he was investigated for that banking stuff, everyone said "do it".
... that's it. That's all we've got on the left.
I don't like the Bernie love cause it's hypocrisy. How are we gonna say we want old people out of politics, except OUR old guy. Nah, he's had his run and anything he could have done by now he would have.
Frankly I don't have a problem with him but I did have a problem with people pushing him as president, cause I rather win an election, and Bernie can't win those. He can't even get the full support of his own party why would I think he'd be a good president?
Sees hornets nest
"Heh heh" KICK
I think people on the left love Bernie because there aren't a lot of terrible skeletons in his closet. There are still a TON of things that Bernie could do that would make me dislike him and not support him. There is almost nothing Trump could do that would make a Trump supporter dislike him and not support him. That's the difference.
In other words, admiring someone for their ideals and action is not the same as unconditionally supporting them. No politician deserves the latter.
I get the impression it's different people making each of these conflicting arguments.
Personally I have no problem with old people being in leadership positions; experience is useful. The problem with the old white men in charge of the USA is that they serve corporations, not that they're old white men.
I voted for him in both primaries. But that's why I was entirely fine that he didn't win. The people chose, and it wasn't him.
But it's only a problem on one side.
Pretty much yeah. Dudes aren't festooning their homes and cars with Kamala signs and hats. Blue colored hats haven't become synonymous with one particular political group in a party either.
It's a character flaw to idolize anyone.
Sorry, I'll rephrase for clarity: it's only happening on one side. I mean c'mon, the Democrats gave up running an incumbent president because he was obviously not up to the job (read: senile). Trump was never up to the job (read: egomaniacal racist sexist idiotic narcissistic wannabe-dictator) but the Republicans practically broke their necks slipping in their own drool running to nominate him for the third fucking time, even though last time he ran he quite literally tried to start a civil war.
Were you not alive a couple months ago when the entirety of dem social media was desperately trying to convince the world a second Biden term was a good idea?
You mean a couple months ago when they begged him to stop running and then he did? Yeah, I remember well. The Democrats gave up an incumbent candidate, historically the biggest possible advantage a political party could have, because they knew he obviously was unfit for the task. It's almost like they base their decisions on reality and common sense instead of fear-mongering bullshit and xenophobia, interesting...
Lmao missed with that both sides bs
That's an unfair comparison. On one hand you have the lowest of the low within society, someone willing to compromise any morality they might possess and sell themselves for a paltry sum of money, and on the other hand you have hard working strippers.
Bernie Sanders is the exception to that rule. Because he does care.
I'd be much more likely to trust a stripper than a politician.
And the politicians don't let you spit nickels into their spread open buttholes!
Donate enough to their campaign and they might.
No, you pay politicians to do that to the electorate.
This is TMI.
But you can't pay a politician to fu....oh I guess you can just get a politician to do that too. Yeah 👍 agreed 💯.
