North Dakota voters will decide whether to abolish property taxes
North Dakota voters will decide whether to abolish property taxes
North Dakota voters will decide in November whether to eliminate property taxes. The change would be a first for a state and a major move.
North Dakota voters will decide this fall whether to eliminate property taxes in what would be a first for a state and a major change that officials initially estimate would require more than $1 billion every year in replacement revenue.
Secretary of State Michael Howe’s office said Friday that backers submitted more than enough signatures to qualify the constitutional initiative for the November general election. Voters rejected a similar measure in 2012.
Property taxes are the base funding for numerous local government services, including sewers, water, roads, jails, deputies, school building construction and teacher salaries — “pretty much the most basic of government,” said North Dakota Association of Counties Executive Director Aaron Birst.
Lmao. Dumbasses.
Look what happend to kansas after they cut taxes like that. Libertarianism fails faster than communist countries every time.
Is it they got a two term Democratic governor and asserted to not amend the Kansas constitution to specifically state abortion wasn't included?
There definitely are better taxes than property taxes. But, since it's a red state, they would probably replace it with a worse one. Or just debt.
It'll probably be replaced with sales tax increases. Sales taxes are very well-known to be regressive.
Or think of "low-tax" Texas, where every other road is privately operated and charges tolls out the ass.
“Every other road…” serious [citation needed] there. I live in San Antonio (you know 6th, largest city, metro of 2.2m people) and there’s not a single toll road. Austin, Dallas and Houston have a few but it’s by far not every other road. You can get around on 10, 35, 45 and the corresponding ring roads just fine.
Also the property taxes here are quite high compared to a lot of other states, but as such there’s no state income tax.
charges tolls out the ass.
User fees are so variable. We have a commuter rail system that is financially destitute because it was user-fee based and then #covid. Now it's in mortal disrepair - I know what I said - and trying to reduce services but keep prices high - shrinkflation - to remain financially viable.
Sales tax benefits residents more in states with high tourism like CA, FL, NY. But ND? Lol
This would be great if it eliminated property tax for primary residences or something like that. Everything else is a handout to the wealthy.
Big A Libertarian Walks into a Bear energy.
Fun fact. That was in Grafton, NH. NH doesn't have sales tax. Instead, there's a correspondingly high property tax.
At least they get good value for it. The schools aren't terrible, and the roads are better than the much wealthier state of MA right nearby.
For anyone interested
For anyone wondering why "Liquor and Beer" doesn't say tax at the end like tobacco, every liquor store in the state is run by the state.
https://www.nh.gov/transparentnh/where-the-money-comes-from/
Another red welfare state making it worse
I'm pretty sure that this isn't a Democrat-Republican issue.
goes looking
Yeah.
Nebraska and Texas have some of the highest effective property tax rates in the country.
Hawaii has one of the lowest, and California's pretty low too.
There's definitely regionality -- the Midwest has (mostly) high, and the western Great Plains states low -- but it doesn't really map to Democrat-Republican status.
north dakota's tax burden overall is pretty low, though: 7th lowest among the states.
But you have to compare it in context.
In Canada, Alberta has no sales tax because they make so much money from oil. In normal conditions and with a working government that is not idiotic, such a system could work. However they have a stupid government that only does this to buy votes so when oil drops they drown
So, in this context, does North Dakota have an alternative revenue stream to compensate?
They're replacing it with Land Value Tax, right? Right?..
Or sales tax, or something else. High taxation and misuse of taxes is bad, but taxes themselves support the infrastructure everyone uses. So if they get rid of this, something else is going to have to take its place unless the property tax was way too high.
Direct wealth seizure
That is a terrible idea if you want a functioning government.
That is a great idea if you want government to fail.
The roads will take 10 years to turn into alabama, but they will.
Nope, North Dakota has snow and ice, so it won't even take 5.
Scared the shit out of me when I was a kid
Property taxes are the base funding for numerous local government services, including sewers, water, roads, jails, deputies, school building construction and teacher salaries — “pretty much the most basic of government,” said North Dakota Association of Counties Executive Director Aaron Birst.
I guess if that's really what they want to defund, then go for it, but don't expect any federal dollars.
Whatever they will come up with will be regressive and mostly affect poor people.
Once the most socialist states in the country...how far we have fallen. It is a politically sad place now.
Huh, didn't know that they still have a state run bank up there.
https://news.prairiepublic.org/show/dakota-datebook-archive/2022-05-22/socialism-in-north-dakota
I went through the middle and western part of the state last year, and almost everyone we met was angry af and weirdly entitled. Having been in Minnesota the week before, it was like night and day.
It is a politically
sadbad place now
I think everyone is ok with property taxes. What homeowners hate is increasing property tax. It should be a flat rate for everyone that doesn’t increase with the exception being on non residential properties.
Ok, I’ll bite.
How is a state meant to keep up with inflation if property taxes don’t increase to compensate?
And do you mean to say that property taxes on a mansion situated on several acres should incur the same flat rate as a 1000 square foot home on a quarter acre?
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