I straight up don't understand the appeal of a bigger userbase here. More users isn't inherently better, and will definitely introduce more issues and problem users that will tax our still developing and somewhat fragile platform. Wanting that "instantly" is just asking for the collapse of Lemmy, imo.
It will help more niche communities grow. I left reddit, generally don't miss it. I also give zero shits about tech, programming and Linux. I am a sports fan though, big NBA fan. There's just zero conversation on those instances. I would like to see the user base grow so I can engage some conversations about those interests. I sure as shit ain't going outside and making friends lol
I am still interested in the mentioned tech, programming ad linux communities but the biggest issue is definitely smaller communities lacking in numbers. But I see more and more users and conversations on here over time. It has definitely increased since I joined. Hopefully we'll see the smaller communities grow as well.
I am with you. I don't care about what the loonix lunatics and privacy criminals preach (I already use uwunutu btw), I just wanna see interaction in the regular normal people communities without the reddit garbage. We need more people in here for that.
There's really zero guarantee that any number of additional users will improve your communities. What would work better is seeding discussions yourself. Is it going to be as robust and abundant as Reddit? No. But the platform is also much newer. All of those subs grew over time because people put in the effort to participate even when the was "zero conversation". You might be taking to yourself for a while, but setting the stage will be much better for the growth you want to see rather than aiming to fill it with random users you just hope make it better and not worse.
Lemmy's biggest weakness right now is a slow drip feed of content. After blocking all of the sports communities and instances in languages I don't speak, I'm left with the following:
News
A bunch of meme communities that might as well be interchangeable with one another
Memes about a TV show I don't watch
Newspaper comics
Animal pictures
Way too much vanilla porn
None of this is bad content per say, but it doesn't capture what I loved about reddit before they ruined it. Reddit was a place where even the most niche of niche topics had a space that you could check in on every day. Obscure anime, unusual collections, diy showcases, you name it. Cultivating a culture that produces produces such specific groups requires enough people to form them. In a group of 100 random people, the number of them who are into Ginga Nagareboshi Gin (look it up) is going to be quite low, but that number increases the more people you include in the sample size and sooner or later you have a subreddit for Ginga fans. That was why Reddit was special to me, and that is what's keeping Lemmy from reaching that high for me.
Sounds like you just want people to provide content for you. Zero-effort entertainment at your convenience, platform be damned.
Considering your have 2 posts to your name, I'd recommend being the change you want to see in the world. If you want a community for your interest, you can't expect it to just appear for you, fully formed. Find the one you're ignoring because it's "too slow" and get involved. The reason it's so "dead" is that most people think like you are.
It's estimated that about 10% of users actually participate in the forums they visit, with 1% of that making the majority of "content". Imagine what it would look like if that changed? We don't need to throw more users into the platform that will tax the system, we just need to stop expecting everyone else to entertain us and start contributing.
I'm not "gatekeeping". Lemmy can and will grow fine on it's own. That will be great. Campaigning to increases the user base by 500x "instantly" will just cause problems. I get people want more content, but wanting this platform to be the new Reddit overnight is simply unrealistic and frankly dangerous for the site. The platform maintained by volunteers, not a corporation, and it is regularly facing problems that it already struggles to deal with effectively. A Reddit sized userbase would just destroy Lemmy.
More users = more lifetime, for the platform. At the current level, I estimate that this platform will last about two years. Maybe three. Less, if some kind of significant problem occurs.
You're right that the instant part could be dangerous. That could be the significant problem I just mentioned. But otherwise, Lemmy needs more users, desperately. All internet things have to grow or die. You can wish that wasn't a fact, but it will remain a fact.
I estimate that this platform will last about two years.
Based on what? I too can pull a number out of my arse and estimate the platform will last exactly 18,345 years from today, that doesn't actually mean anything.
No it depends entirely on your audience if your doing a yt kids channel sure because they grow up but if your targeting loyal users u don't really need to
I mean look back 8 months at the number of comments and post upvotes, Lemmy has been worthwhile at a larger userbase than now and as long as the influx isn't too much (Eternal September style) the community can continue to grow. People who dont fit in will go back to reddit or find their own place somewhere in the fediverse where the old heads won't have to put up with them. I dont understand the insularism, although I only got here about 2 months ago so maybe I need to lurk more and read the room.
The great thing about Lemmy is there's no singular "here". Make a community free from politics if you want one, or, if you're able/willing, make a whole-ass instance. The makeup of Lemmy is pretty much 100% democratic, based on the content of those willing to put in the effort. If someone is unhappy with that makeup, it's up to them to change it.
Also, it's worth noting that Lemmy is certainly not a curated garden of content. If there's stuff you don't want to see any more, it's up to you to remove it from your feed. That is the intended user experience here.
Exactly. Also, good luck searching, bookmarking, filtering, sorting posts, organizing actual communities, etc. The whole methodology of the platform basically disallows all those things.
Lemmy is a replacement for Reddit. That's straight-up what it is. That's why we're here. Even if TwiX hadn't become evil and insane, because of its insane master, it still wouldn't be any kind of replacement for Reddit. Especially the NSFW Reddit communities.
The average coomer that would lurk on a reddit porn sub probably doesn't know nitter exists. If they already made a reddit account just for porn, they'd do the same on twitter, insta, fucking google+, any of the most popular options. Most couldn't care less about privacy beyond incognito. All they want is the porn, and they'll do the bare minimum to get it
Unless Elong has really gone wildin', they don't allow straight-up gonewild posts on Twix. If /r/gonewild gets banned/censored/otherwise crippled, millions of people from that subreddit will come here, as long as they are told about it.
The differences I see between link aggregator websites and those websites are that link aggregators have worse discoverability (it's useful to have tags to search for and a hyperlink to the original source of a piece of content) and comment threading (and comments on pornography are basically useless to me). I don't see how directing people looking for pornography to a link aggregator website rather than a website dedicated to providing it will be helpful to me.
And here we have a problem. You're doing a very good job of describing what YOU want. You want pornography. The kind you can find on danbooru.
Are you a random girl who wants to post her tits and/or vag on /r/gonewild? Or are you a guy who wants to post his dong? Do they even allow random users to post their nudes on danbooru? Maybe they do, but not at all in the same format as /r/gonewild.
I'm asserting that Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content, over on their platform, as an indirect consequence of becoming a public company. Nobody has control of that, other than the Reddit board, corporate officers, and shareholders. I'm using the "brace yourselves" meme to indicate that this will kick off a flood of users, fleeing to the Fediverse/Lemmy, because we are a direct replacement for Reddit.
If you haven't noticed that, I can only say that I am confused. That's what the platform was made to be. It works exactly like Reddit, but with several logical improvements (you can edit post titles after you've made a post, embedding images in replies is somewhat easier, the system isn't owned by a single monolithic authority that can destroy communities on a whim, etc).
On the one hand, I am suggesting that the influx of new users can be a positive thing, to ensure the healthy growth of this platform. On the other hand, I am literally saying "brace yourselves," because the wave of crazy shit is coming.
But I'm seeing several people responding like you, with this confusing attitude of "UHH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I NECESSARILY WANT." Well, yeah, that's part of why I said "BRACE YOURSELVES." Ned Stark was saying "Winter is coming" as an ominous portent, not an advertisement.
I mean, I actually happen to enjoy anonymous tits and pussy, but you do you.
I discovered that this discussion is probably moot, based on looking at https://join-lemmy.org/instances and loading 6 of the first "Random" Lemmy servers and 6 of the "Most active" Lemmy servers:
The locally featured "Instance policies - PLEASE READ" post on https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org (https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/1209) contains text that expresses they probably don't want to host pornography ("The primary focus and scope of our instance is subjects relating to GameStop, household investors participating in US stock markets, direct registration, holding the financial industry/Wall Street accountable, and/or related economic and financial topics. Although we do not intend to censor discussion, and will not enforce around any stance or viewpoint within this scope, we may prevent or remove communities with an out-of-scope topic from hosting themselves on our Lemmy instance.").
https://lemy.lol/ displayed "Limited porn" after I clicked on "Rules" on the main page.
The web page associated to the text "Our Instance rules are here" on https://reddthat.com (https://reddthat.com/post/9701) seems to express pornography is allowed, though "porn" is not currently discussed in any detail ("We are a NSFW enabled instance, which means there may be NSFW content in the Local and All categories if you leave NSFW enabled in your account.").
The "Most active" servers:
https://lemmy.world/ does not seem to explicitly ban all pornography, though it doesn't seem to be a large amount of its content based on a search for "porn".
https://feddit.de/ displays "Keine Pornografie / Adult Content" prominently on its main page.
https://hexbear.net/ does not seem to explicitly ban all pornography, though it doesn't seem to be a large amount of its content based on a search for "porn".
Based on this survey, this discussion is only relevant on between 2/6 to 3/6 of all servers, and is not very relevant on more than 5/6 of all servers.
Overall response
I think you didn't answer my question ("Why should I use Lemmy [...] for consuming pornography").
The post title is "REMEMBER TO SPREAD THE WORD! THE PLATFORM THAT HAS THE PORN ALWAYS WINS!" and the post body is "Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.". I am suggesting that you NOT "spread the word" or "Start telling people now" in regards to people who want to distribute pornography. I don't think you addressed that suggestion, though I did not make it explicit in my original reply.
I don't think it's important to put any amount of energy into discussing this topic, since our expressions are unlikely to directly affect any policy on a large majority of Lemmy instances. I do appreciate your response though, since we can't influence policy at all if we're silent, and I don't want to unnecessarily make it harder to contribute to making policies!
Specific responses
You’re doing a very good job of describing what YOU want.
Thank you, I'm glad you think I managed to express myself well!
My attention cannot be used as effectively to express other people's desires as it can to express my own desires, so it's probably best if we each express our personal desires and then consider each other's comments in order to make decisions that will benefit us. The primary purpose of policy documentation should be to benefit someone, and preferably to benefit a large number of people.
Are you a random girl who wants to post her tits and/or vag on /r/gonewild? Or are you a guy who wants to post his dong?
No, I'm not. I don't think we should use energy considering their desires; I think we should use more energy considering the ideas shared by people who are using Lemmy right now, as I doubt the people who currently do not use Lemmy will contribute resources to maintaining Lemmy servers in the next month, and communities surely benefit more from consistent support than from uncertain amounts of support, and I see that many servers are explicitly hostile to people who want to distribute pornography. If you want to consider the desires of people who don't use Lemmy, making it easier for them to find relevant servers may be useful.
Do they even allow random users to post their nudes on danbooru?
The answer is probably no, but I also mentioned pornhub, and I see https://www.pornhub.com/albums which I think will be more effective to use to "allow random users to post their nudes" than Lemmy servers, as they are financially incentivized to host that content and pornhub probably has more competent management than the vast majority of Lemmy servers do (due to having a larger number of people managing it, if nothing else).
I’m asserting that Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content [...]
That’s what the platform was made to be. [...]
On the one hand, I am suggesting that the influx of new users can be a positive thing, to ensure the healthy growth of this platform. [...]
I agree with the sentiments you expressed. I agree that more people will use Lemmy as time passes, and that the rate of change of people using Lemmy can be affected by Reddit Inc. I agree Lemmy is a suitable replacement for Reddit and is an improvement for me. More people using Lemmy would probably be good for me. I also agree that having a large increase in the number of people using Lemmy will likely cause more discomfort in the short term due to new users' lack of familiarity with existing culture.
If you haven’t noticed [that [Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content] will kick off a flood of users], I can only say that I am confused.
I did notice that because you expressed it with the image attached to your post. You also gave me instructions by using the words "REMEMBER" and "Start", and I'm expressing that I don't want to follow those instructions and I'm urging other people to also not follow those instructions.
brace yourselves
I probably won't have to, because the server I use clearly has a rule that pornography isn't allowed, so I probably won't have to deal with people posting pornography anytime soon.
I mean, I actually happen to enjoy anonymous tits and pussy, but you do you.
I prefer my pornography to have documentation about how it was sourced. That way it's easier to find it if I want to see it again.