Iceland allows whaling to resume in ‘massive step backwards’

Ah. So just a couple of whale hunting seasons away from extinction.

Why do you guys keep talking about Minke whales?

Read the fucking article. They're hunting fin whales, which are considered Vulnerable.

Im Icelandic and I can confirm this. This massive asshole (Kristjan Loftson) has plenty of money and one hobby, killing whales. He as lost aprox. 20m€ on whaling in the years he has been hunting them.

Amazing that such sweeping devastation can be tracked back to one piece of shit.

So it's not some indigenous thing like in the Americas and is just pure evil capitalism? Ugh!

And here is the asshole making a whole nation look bad yet again;

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/13/the-last-whaler-we-can-hunt-forever-says-iceland-kristjan-loftsson

Chickens aren't at risk of extinction due to human consumption.

We don't have whale ranches.

Maybe don't eat either.

Whales are literally sentient, have culture, families, and fucking language with grammar.

They (cows) possess substantial problem-solving skills, enabling them to interact effectively with their environment. This intelligence isn't confined to the tangible realm; it also extends profoundly into the emotional sphere. Cows form intricate social relationships within their herd

As a meat eater the argument that we shouldn't eat "intelligent" animals is bull. The livestock we eat all display a higher/equal level of intelligence as your pets. Ultimately we don't eat certain animals because we like them and that's it.

Personally if you're going to eat meat you can't pick and choose which animal is ok to eat and which one isn't. It's either they all are or none of them are

Wolves too. They have their own cultures, wars, families, even special techniques like having one wolf chase goats up gullies on glaciers, while other wolves ski down the chutes to intercept the goats.

And humans mowed down the entire pack from helicopter. Recently, Montana massacred their packs in a similar way, killing over 100 wolves. It's stomach churning. I've read a couple books on wolves, and some are so sad because the wolves are way too human when you give them more than a passing glance.

They are....unsettlingly smart. Which makes it all the more tragic when someone traps one and shoots it while trapped, and the wolf knows what's going to happen, and calls out one final low goodbye as the human raises the gun. Jesus. I had to put that book down.

Or even if one doesn’t feel strongly about whales. It is still a superb program.

There is no inherent difference whatsoever from eating cats and dogs to eating cows or horses or sheep. Meat is meat.

Should we open dog farms to create more jobs?

China already does

Why not? I dont think that dog farms would be that profitable considering the price of dog food, but I dont see a reason why it should be illegal.

Why not?

That's a pretty strong statement without any underlying argument. There are countless differences between whaling and slaughtering livestock. I'm not in favor of either one per se, but to say they're ethically identical is quite the leap.

Problem is fishing is one of the biggest contributors to plastics ending up in the oceans and sea floors being destroyed. If whaling is like fishing then that's still adding to the problem.

I get it's probably because people just aren't used to the idea of eating whale, but it's odd you're being downvoted when like that's kinda the stance I think a lot of environmentalists have here in Norway, though I think the comparison is more to like venison than cows, because venison's hunted but cows are raised. In the grand scheme of things, the beef industry does way more damage and has more ethical concerns than the strictly regulated whaling industry and we should be focusing our attention on that. I could be completely off though - I ain't from Oslo and whale is regularly available on the supermarket shelves in the season so I'm obviously somewhat biased here. I know a lot of people have ethical concerns but like, I don't get it. Pigs are smarter than a whale, but people aren't upset at pork chops.

Also idk how reliable it is because obviously it's a biased source, but according to the fishing industry pound for pound whale's actually way better for the environment than any farmed red meat because you're, y'know, not raising it.

Funny you should take for granted no one has a problem with fishing, a practice absolutely chocked full of problems, environmental and otherwise. Also do you not realize a lot of people also has issues with killing cows?

We have reason to believe whales are in the same ballpark as us. Also we should probably stop eating both but if we can't save both at least we may be able to keep folks from eating the whales.

Lol wut. There is no sustainable way to raise animals for slaughter in this overpopulated planet.

Genociding Native Americans and slavery are part of American culture too, but we mostly stopped that.

Would you accept "ItS tHEiR cUlTuRe" if someone decides whaler hunting is part of their history?

I'm guessing this is what the >!Avatar: Way of the water thing was based on!<

Actually, don't try it. Just encourages hunting.

The planet has burned to a crisp and society no longer exists, but for a very short moment we made a few shareholders slightly richer.

Pretty much.