There’s a danger that the US supreme court, not voters, picks the next president
There’s a danger that the US supreme court, not voters, picks the next president
Millions of Americans will vote this fall – but six Republican justices might have the final say, in a Bush v Gore redux
Millions of Americans will vote this fall – but six Republican justices might have the final say, in a Bush v Gore redux
It’s frighteningly easy to imagine. Kamala Harris wins Georgia. The state elections board, under the sway of its new Trump-aligned commissioners, grinds the certification process to a slow halt to investigate unfounded fraud allegations, spurring the state’s Republican legislature to select its own slate of electors.
Perhaps long lines in Philadelphia lead to the state supreme court holding polls open until everyone has a chance to vote. Before anyone knows the results, Republicans appeal to the US supreme court using the “independent state legislature” (ISL) theory, insisting that the state court overstepped its bounds and the late votes not be counted.
Or maybe an election evening fire at a vote counting center in Milwaukee disrupts balloting. The progressive majority on the state supreme court attempts to establish a new location, but Republicans ask the US supreme court to shut it down.
Maybe that last example was inspired by HBO’s Succession. But in this crazy year, who’s to say it couldn’t happen? The real concern is this: if you think a repeat of Bush v Gore can’t happen this year, think again.
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I mean, hasn't it been pretty clear for at least a year now that this is the plan.
They have no other plan, they are just letting Trump go down in flames acting like a fucking idiot because they know they don't plan on not contesting anything. From here on out, every election is going to be lawfared to death (if there even is a real one after this).
I mean, hasn’t it been pretty clear for at least a year now that this is the plan.
Yes. I think some kind of fuckery like mentioned in this post leading to Trump being president again is the most likely outcome of this election, as horrifying as that sentence is to type and ponder.
We didn't have to imagine any of that.
2000 happened. They just delay long enough in a key state and SCOTUS decides to use the Constitution as toilet paper again.
. . . again.
Freedom™️
With a bunch of those on the court related/involved with the case last time it happened
It's a Good Thing the Supreme Court makes Rulings based on Law and NOT Bias or Bribes!
The /s is mandatory tho
I'm actually more worried about threats of violence at polling places in swing states, especially in Democrat districts. Drop a smoke bomb and play sounds of gunfire and watch everybody scatter and stay away out of fear of violence. All it would take is that in one or two key polling places in swing states and watch this election shift right to Trump. And it wouldn't take much. One of them early in the morning in Pennsylvania would have a chilling effect nationwide as word spreads.
According to a recent FD Signifier video, they have already purged him and a whole ton of other people (cough probably black people cough) from voter rolls in Georgia, he said that hadn't happened to him in nearly a decade, gotta re register, and of course they don't tell you if you've been purged, that onus lies on you to figure out.
Its already illegal to hand out water to people in line for polls.
I would be entirely unsurprised if say I dunno maybe your scenario happens... or maybe they just call in a bunch of bomb threats to polling locations in blue areas, seems to be doing a good job of shutting down Ohio at the moment.
This is why we need as many people as possible to vote early and or by mail! My state, Texas, doesn’t allow mail-in voting, but voting early takes so much less time and it’s harder for any sort of shenanigans since it is so many more days.
How big is the crime here? Like what do you get charged with?
I've also been thinking and expecting that they will create their own fraud this time. Evidence is what they were missing last time around. So imagine this time, drop boxes get flooded with phony ballots that they themselves put in for Kamala. Then they can point the finger and say "See! We told you so!" and it's enough for the state legislations not to certify and call things into question.
Last time was recon for this time.
We barely pick the president as is.
The illusion of democracy
That’s the whole point of stacking the court with loyalists.
If there’s any avenue to exploit by trumpists to get the validity of the election brought before the court, then absolutely…they will decide in trump’s favor.
Bigger danger that it goes to the House.
If enough states fail to certify the election so that neither candidate hits 270, it goes to the House where it's one state, one vote. Red states outnumber blue states.
So I guess the GQP has found something better than gerrymandering.
Even if democrats win, there's the very real danger afterwards that nothing is able to be changed just as it has not been able to under Biden, that the Supreme Court can continue to act outside of laws and ethics, that there continues to be no penalty for disinformation and bribes, that the voting system continues to be slanted towards one side, that billionaires continue buying up and manipulating what's reported in key states, that ignorance and bigotry continues to worsen and become more extreme, that key federal agencies are moved to some of the most bigoted and politically slanted states...
Bush V Gore?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore
Also, fuckery, including the Brooke’s Brothers Riot, which forced Miami Dade recounts to stop early and likely gave the election to Bush.
Everyone thought it quaintly humerous that the bankers rioted to flip the election.
In retrospect...
Fuck.
There's a danger that US citizens enact term limits for justices before the executive or legislative branches.
6 months. If after 6 months of sitting on your ass you can't tell right from wrong, fuck you, you're out.....let me demonstrate.... Epstein: pedophile. That was like 3 milliseconds... Trump: shit get rid of him he's all sorts of wrong ew! Ew! That was like 3 nanoseconds. Should women get to choose? Yes. That was a no brainier. Juanita's tree is growing over the neighbors yard and the neighbor keeps eating the apples...ohhh there's precedent here. I must research...yes it's totally legal. Juanita must not know much about trees because she planted it too close to the fence. That was complicated, 3 seconds, I will need 6 months to recover and continue judging these cases, thanks!
General fucking strike if/when it happens.
We don't have enough labor organization in the US for a general strike to really happen. Especially considering a large amount of union members vote Republican and for Trump as well.
yeah you're probably right about that.
Republicans legislate from the bench, and they are illegalizing Non-GOP politicians
Angry orange hopes so, anyway.
Successful fuckery with this election will result in widespread violence between neighbors. It could last weeks or longer.
Be ready for neighborhood level violence. Have a plan for you and your family, if even to cover just a few weeks (food, water, electricity, fuel, ammo, barricade materials).
Conservatives are openly trying to fuck this election as hard as they can. The only question is if they will succeed. If they do, neighbors will kill neighbors over it. It will not be peaceful like the time conservatives brazenly stole Florida's votes and gave them to Bush. That was a surprise to the normal people. This will be no surprise at all. This will result in bloodshed.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/georgia-election-board-rules/index.html"the scotus is basically going to make trump president no matter who the people vote for. also, don't forget to vote!"
That's not really the point.
The higher the turnout, the better. It's easy for them to do a repeat of the 2000 election. But not if there is a wide enough margin.
They'll declare fraud and a stolen election anyway... The many lawsuits the republicans will fire up, almost assures that at the very least a handfull will get to the supreme court quickly, will be a certainty...
And, unless there is a shift somewhere, the supreme court will proclaim that there is enough suspicion of shenanigans against a trump win that they'll just decide amongst themselves who will win the election, ignoring the "people's" vote altogether...
Perhaps the military is willing to hold the supreme court accountable, because I do not see anyone else able to do it right now.
Wouldn't it be immensely entertaining if the day after the election all current supreme court justices had vanished?