I don't mind, rather, I enjoy dark humor, just not when it's thinly veiled actual beliefs. It's more supposed to be a way to show the absurdity of legitimate problems or be a easier way to broach tough topics.
Yeah, if it's truly just an attempt to not admit your bigoted beliefs, then it's a fair callout. But there are also cases where the insulting bigoted comment joke is supposed to make fun of the people who actually hold those beliefs, and those are fair game.
It's interesting how people try to redefine the word joke. If there's nothing funny about it, it's not a joke. So maybe they mean that they were trolling just for fun, which is not the same thing.
The second point is that if they say something horrible and then you call them an asshole and then they complain that you've gotten too sensitive, which is a very common chain of events, it actually shows that they've gotten too sensitive. If you're not supposed to care about what they said, why should they care about what you said? ... But of course actually they don't care about what you said, and they're just grandstanding. But even if we accept their internal logic just for the sake of argument, it still makes them giant assholes.
If there’s nothing funny about it, it’s not a joke
This doesn't excuse these people, but this is a bad way to define a joke. Funny is a subjective thing, a matter of taste, there is no objective "funny" to measure against to see if they qualify.
If I say some fucked up shit as a joke, it's only because I failed to see how it was fucked up. Or I'm being sarcastic/facetious. If the former, and it's brought to my attention, I'll apologize and not repeat it. If the latter... 🤷🏻♂️
However, I once repeated a joke told to me by my transfem sister that she learned in her trans support group and was called a transphobe on Reddit. Sometimes shit doesn't matter, they just wanna be angry.
Lots of jokes can be understood in different ways. On the internet nobody can tell if you are sincere, while a trans person at a trans support group definitely is.
If I repeat an alt right talking point to my buddy, he knows I'm being sarcastic and I'm making fun of them. But you can't tell if I'm alt right or not.
Kinda sad you actually have to explain this.
Yeah the sort of jokes from trans support groups often wind into the “this is probably not the sort of joke I’m comfortable hearing a random cis person tell”. Lots of jokes about dark aspects of our lives
This is pretty much my take on jokes using darker material. I'm a very sarcastic and facetious guy, so I say jokes in ways that imply I don't believe what I'm saying, which makes the joke a joke.
Of course, for every person like me there're ten who say them fully seriously