Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever

Then stop buying it.

The base models (the air's, not pro's), should have shipped with 12-16GB standard, and the pro's should have shipped with 16-24GB standard. I'd argue that a minimum of 24-32GB should really be the standard on something named a "pro" model.

Apple's M-based laptops are really great - excellent display, best-in-class speakers, good keyboard, industry-leading trackpad...But 8GB of RAM for $1600? Get out of here.

People could rage about the memory cost all they want but as long as people keep buying the expensive upgrade, Apple wouldn't give a fuck. Why would they voluntarily shut down the money hose?

I mean, I get why people don’t like it but at the same time, no one forces you to buy one. I like Macs, I enjoy using OS X and would use it as my primary OS. I don’t because I don’t find the value proposition of their hardware worth it.

Their loss, they have a market, they just aren’t interested in it.

I will be the devil's advocate here and say that having the 8 Gb ram config on their cheapest machines (MBA, Mac Mini) is perfectly fine, but having it as the base config on the MBP is borderline false advertising.

Laughs in ThinkPad running Linux.

Yeah I’m a fan boy but I agree with this 100%. In the old days I’d just buy lowest ram config and then replace with after market but obviously we dont have the option anymore. It sucks because I could use at least 64 in my m3 but it was cost prohibitive.

I’m positive the minimum went up to 16gb like a generation or two back. It’s sickening that they went back over.

I have a couple of work MacBooks with 8gb for managers and they often complain of them going slow as molasses when having a good few tabs open in chrome. I’m talking less then 10 though, but heavy sites like email and AdWords and other horrible sites.

That's okay, because their 8GB is the same as 16GB on other machines. They are just that better. /s

I think what Apple has done with their M series of chips is actually incredible and very interesting. However actually purchasing their hardware is just out of the question when I'm just going to run a Linux distro on whatever I purchase.

The base model isn’t really the base model. If you are buying a Mac you just have to accept you are spending $2k on it

Apple has surpassed its peak age. Downfall is coming.

Remember the G4 iBook? I used the crap out of that machine, it was built like a tank. I upgraded the ram, installed a new wifi card, swapped the broken keyboard and bought a new battery, all by myself. The little beast still runs, albeit suffering a lot with new modern, web based tasks.

The Macbook M1 I got from work makes me terrified to even use it, because it feels so fragile in comparison. I don't carry it around like I used to do with the iBook.

11GB idling?? Maybe not as optimized as it seems…

There's absolutely nothing wrong since their ultra zealous base will continue to buy their complete asinine bullshit products at their shitty premiums and anti consumer practices.

Don't buy Apple. As simple as that. You know when a company gives you the creeps? That's how I feel about Apple.

If you have a problem with Apple hardware, don't buy it. Simple as.

They do this because they know people will buy it. If less people bought it, they would stop doing it.

And still no ecc?

I have the base M1 MacBook Pro, but I'm seriously considering eventually switching to a framework laptop with Linux if I ever get the chance. I love the processor and OS on this thing, but it feels like I'm hitting a wall with doing some of the more advanced stuff I want to do.

Try Linux won’t regret! But needs time like every new learning

Wow, people here hate Apple don't they?

It's fair if you're a pro and need the latest new hardware. If not, like me, I got an 18mth old MBP for about a third of the new price. It's incredible, best thing I ever did. And Apple don't get my money!

Is it not still dead simple to add more RAM yourself?

Honestly 8GiB is not a problem at all on the m1. I personally use mine about as hard as I use my 2018 razer blade advanced with 64 gb of ram. The fast storage in the first Apple silicon laptops allow for swap so fast that it just doesn’t matter. (Swap being kind of like using your storage as ram for folks who don’t know) the only time I found myself wanting is when I was running any servers for hosting local games or for extra gpu capabilites while viewing large intricate sliced files in cura. I can’t speak much for m2 or m3 but m1 it was a solid option to go with the base considering you were getting the best speakers and some of the best build quality out of such a thin and battery efficient device.