It's a stirring speech. Things are about to get very expensive for both Canadians and Americans. I have already scratched out future plans for visiting the US for the rest of the year, but I am also considering cancelling ones I pre-booked months ago, even at a 50% loss. Haven't decided firmly yet.
American here. I would encourage you to do so. I would not encourage anyone to visit the US for the next four years. Tourism is big for the United States. The only way we fix this downhill slide trump is taking is for it to blow up catastrophically in Americans faces. It’ll suck for us (and everyone of our allies he is targeting) but it is the only way we vote these morons on the right out and start a long road to try to fix the damage caused by the orange, wannabe godking. The senate race in two years is primarily right wingers (22 red vs 13 blue) who are up for reelection. I’m cautiously optimistic that the recession that trump causes will create a blue wave. That should lame-duck his last two years in office.
My grandparents voted for Trump despite myself and my family telling them we won't visit them in the US again if they did. Guess who they chose over us? We're sticking to our word, I have no intention of ever stepping foot in the US until it gets its collective shit together.
Is Canada going to start working on trade deals with EU?
Already done. CETA was provisionally applied in 2017.
Full ratification unlikely just due to the nature of how the EU half works.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement
I'm going to the US next week because my mom is turning 80... I don't expect to visit again unless someone dies for the next four years.
Watching all of this unfold is incredibly disheartening.
The world is becoming more splintered, more nationalistic, more war hungry. Am I getting old and sensitive or is everything really just going to shit?
I'm from the UK so not involved directly in the current conflict, but with Brexit in the recent past (the effects of which still being felt) I feel like we aren't immune to these dumb decisions. Our leadership is likely watching things, taking notes and looking for how to apply this strategy themselves.
Yeah I'm watching from Australia and I was really moved by Trudeau's speech. Him talking about the long history and friendship and how it's all thrown away in less than a week is truly sad and sickening.
I don't believe you're over sensitive. The world as I knew it seems to be coming to an end. I'm gen X and can remember what an exciting and optimistic time the 90s was. I don't think it's just nostalgia. I remember Mandela freed. The Berlin wall falling. Science being revered.
And since 9/11 it's just been a constant slide to shit.
Not getting sensitive.
We forgot that we stand on the shoulders of all those before us, and now we’ve decided to learn first hand their struggles.
It's the enshittification of democracy.
Partially caused by undereducated voters who were allowed to pass by the educational system rather than being held back until they learned properly imho.
Time to cancel the Netflix and Disney streaming services too. Stick with Canadian services or go grab some DVDs from your local library and watch CBC.
Absolutely loving the fire from you guys in the comments in the various threads. 🇮🇪❤️🇨🇦
Summary article from the cbc, if anyone doesn't want to watch the whole thing: Trudeau hits back at the U.S. with big tariffs after Trump launches a trade war
And NatPo are absolute trolls, looking to cause more division on exactly the day we don't need it. They knew there was no answer for their questions, which could obviously wait til another day - they just wanted him/Canada to look weak or divided.
Crap... We're about to hear a whole lot of noise online about how divided we all are on this, aren't we?
Don't believe the hype. The Murdoch media machine, the Brietbart, Rebel, Manning Centre, Twitter, Facebook, and bot army machine are all going to turn this into a story about internal division. Whatever story or Debate they push into your FEED, remember that you were 100% onside with your neighbours today.
Just as well. We need to develop climate solutions fast and work on food security; healing our battered healthcare system... and that should be a lot easier without that troglodyte government dragging us backward with Christian Science and buying up our diabetes meds supply for cosmetic weightloss. Gonna be a rough go for awhile though.
The government has also put out a press release on their website.
The first phase of our response will include tariffs on $30 billion in goods imported from the U.S., effective February 4, 2025, when the U.S tariffs are applied. The list includes products such as orange juice, peanut butter, wine, spirits, beer, coffee, appliances, apparel, footwear, motorcycles, cosmetics, and pulp and paper. A detailed list of these goods will be made available shortly.
Minister LeBlanc also announced that the government intends to impose tariffs on an additional list of imported U.S. goods worth $125 billion. A full list of these goods will be made available for a 21-day public comment period prior to implementation, and will include products such as passenger vehicles and trucks, including electric vehicles, steel and aluminum products, certain fruits and vegetables, aerospace products, beef, pork, dairy, trucks and buses, recreational vehicles, and recreational boats.
Be set to counter the rampant misinformation from the US government trying to paint us as the bad guys rather than the good Neighbors who always have their back when times get hard.
- California fires
- 9/11
- Tehran hostage crisis
Just to name a few. You don’t get a free pass when you punch your buddy in the face and lie about it.
Part of me regrets to had made this post with a youtube video given the context, so I want to remind you that you can watch youtube videos without ads by using Firefox and the uBlock origin extension.
This is when Trudeau is at his best. Can’t think of Pierre being able to pull this off with any measure of sincerity.
Carney could easily do it as well.
In the photo you can see their unwilling faces going "c'mon don't let us do this" but with a stern 3 year old confidence against a dragon.
Which means Canadians will lose their jobs, they will be out of work, and some companies in Canada will not hire because there's not enough sales to hire anybody new.
we didnt choose this commercial war but boy we will defend ourselves. You can thank that cartoon that americans chose to represent them.
Consider the cost of inaction. A decade of lost economic growth, fewer jobs, and diminished competitiveness – all because we lacked the leverage to counter these blatantly unfair tariffs. Can we afford that?
Either those tariffs come down quick because we fight back, we massively expand our trading relationships with countries we don't get along with (China, Russia, India) Erdogan-style, or we experience what could amount to a Great Depression once Trump escalates further again knowing we're an easy target.
Yeah, it may hurt more in the short term than just accepting the American tariffs meekly, but it's the right thing to do to stand up to this American insanity. Just accepting Trump's bullying doesn't fix anything at all.
There’s no doubt it will be painful.
And the same thing will happen to Americans and American companies, and to Mexico and Mexican companies.
Trump has just decided he's going to trash the entire economy of North America, and destroy any chance of anyone being willing to make a new trade treaty with the US for at least the next twenty years, because the US can't be relied upon to actually hold up their end of it.
We can't fix what he's broken. Best we can manage is to diminish the chances of anyone trying it again.
10 day old account with the worst political takes in every Canadian post I see you in. Either you're an agitator, or you somehow passed high school in Canada without a basic understanding of how the government works. Either way, not worth listening to.
Bootlicking the US isn't gonna help Canada long term, especially since arguably that's what's led to this mess in the first place.
Which means Canadians will lose their jobs, they will be out of work, and some companies in Canada will not hire because there's not enough sales to hire anybody new.
We know. But that's Trump's fault for starting this stupid fight.
Or are you suggesting that we just "shut up and take it" like a good little rape victim?
If so, fuck that. We're kicking him in the balls.
That's what Trump wants.
