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Humanoid robots set for widespread use in 2025

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According to a recent article, New Scientist unveils that experts discuss the rapid progress of humanoid robots and their potential to revolutionize industries from...

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I don't believe it
Elon Musk has stated that Tesla will begin producing its Optimus robot for internal use before the end of next year.

While it should have been obvious anyway here is confirmation it's all bullshit
In other news, self driving cars will be reliable and trustworthy in 1-2 years.
- Nope. Just taxis, so you don't own the thing.
  
  But I want my own personal luxury car that I paid $100,000 for to go out on its own in the middle of the night while I’m asleep and have it earn money for me as a self-driving Uber…
- So the same as for the past decade.
Two reasons why this is just another bullshit claim:

Generalized robotics don't have any autonomy yet. They require immense amount of power to be mobile, and charging takes a lot of time. You'd need fleets to replace fleets upon fleets. Maybe 20m of runtime, and then the same for charging.

Everything needs to be trained for job-specific tasks. Repetitive work that does a single purpose is way easier than a robot with multiple jobs. Right now all these tech demos are simplistic at best, and only focus on single jobs.

Tesla's robot is a total scam, akin to a child's toy that reacts to certain things, and requires internet connectivity (wonder why???).

Boston Dynamics isn't even trying this noise, they know what their purpose is...military use.

Agility hasn't even demonstrated autonomy yet.

1X is maybe the closest, but again...single purpose.

Honda is basically off the map right now, but actually have the most advanced articulation platform.

It's a mess. Stop worrying about this shit and ignore the headlines for 5 years maybe.
- I think a lot of this boils down to cost, too. Especially since you made the point about Boston Dynamics. We could look up the price for Spot (the dog) or the estimates what Atlas cost. The military or some bomb defusal unit are logical target audience. They're happy to pay that kind of money and might have some good use for it. It'll take some time until it's worth the price for a cost-optimized warehouse which absolutely needs humanoid robots and can't do it with the tech that automates warehouses for decades already. And the androids need to become much more affordable (aka mass-produced) to be bought by regular consumers. So yeah. We need to invent them in the first place. And I'm pretty sure adoption will take quite some time. Just because inventing something, and mass-producing it and making it affordable are two very different things.
  
  (And I think currently we have neither. I saw a few videos about this year's World Robot Conference in China... And the androids look great. But they're all doing very limited tech-demos, if at all.)
  
  Last time I looked, the dog started at $75,000? So Atlas is going to be roughly the same as a mortgage?
- Damn. So a minimum of 5 years of chores I have to do still :/
  
  Most people wouldn't be able to even afford these things anyway. Don't worry about it.
  
  Dude......just get a wife.
Yet a robot made specifically to cook burgers, a job disparaged as simply "burger flipping", has yet to make any inroads even though it's been talked about since at least as far back as 2012: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/burger-making-robot-could-revolutionize-202800987.html
- They're literally using those things in White Castles and other restaurants around the country.
"There is a lot of optimism that ChatGPT-level models for robotics will soon be upon us," says Ed Colgate, a professor at Northwestern University in Illinois.

Uh... sure.
Just watch out for those software updates. 😂
are you guys hopeful for 2nd quarter of 21st century?
- No
"Not All Robots" should be required reading:

https://awastudios.com/series/not-all-robots/
Widespread use in industry not for personal use if you mean the right word. Robots for personal use still slow in movement because we expected robot can do multiple thing, it's different to the robots for industrial use since it can only do one or two thing faster than human not many thing
- Exactly, my first thought was "define 'widespread'" and of course it's not like the Jetsons..
Another reason why companies like Amazon treats it's workforce like garbage. They are seen as replaceable in the near future.
Why, when you have the ability to build robots of any shape or size, would you want to build a humanoid robot in particular? Are they just lacking creativity? Or is being humanoid just hype, like dotcom or AI?
- Because the entire world is designed around the human body and the way it moves. It’s theoretically much easier to introduce a humanoid robot into an existing workspace than it is to retrofit all the doors, stairs, etc. to allow a wheeled robot to move around.
  
  I’m not sure that can be the case when it’s increasingly the case that buildings are built to be accessible by wheeled humans currently, often mandated by law.
- Because the human body is capable of so much more than a design that would be super useful for one, single thing.
- If robot why hot

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