'When presidencies go wrong': Economist says Trump may fall into trap that will 'doom' him
'When presidencies go wrong': Economist says Trump may fall into trap that will 'doom' him
Donald Trump just had a big win, but he might be about to fall into a trap, a conservative economist said Saturday.Oren Cass, who previously flagged concerns with Trump's political campaign, wrote in the New York Times over the weekend that suggests the former president and president-elect might mak...
Summary
Conservative economist Oren Cass warns that Donald Trump could jeopardize his presidency by focusing on donor and activist agendas rather than the priorities of swing voters who secured his victory.
Writing in The New York Times, Cass argues that new presidents often mistake donor interests, such as tax cuts and deregulation, for the will of the electorate, leading to ineffective governance and loss of public trust.
Cass urges Trump to prioritize issues that resonate with the broader American public to avoid a fate that has derailed past presidencies.
How are we already letting this fucking narrative take root?
TRUMP DID NOT WIN SOME EVER-IMPORTANT SWING VOTER. He kept his base while democratic support shriveled. This is the exact recipe to get the same fucking thing happening in four years where democrats refuse to offer anything but some “centrist” bootlicking bullshit.
Don’t let them spread this fucking bullshit
There's no such thing as swing voters. At least not one relevant to winning an election. Elections are about getting your 40% out to vote.
If the last few years have taught me anything, it's that what you do is not important as much as the narrative that you are able to spin.
As long as TV news networks, podcasters, news outlets, and Musk's Twitter exist, people who are too ignorant to understand they are being lied to, or too lazy to parse credible information, will stay in the dark and vote red in the next election as well.
Democracy doesn't work when the electorate is too illiterate to cast their vote justly. They'll just vote for the next clown who promises them the moon.I don't have a solution.
Exactly.
I’ve had Republican friends send me articles, I read them, start the debate, only to realize they literally only read the headline.
I’ve found myself reading terribly written articles just so that I’m sure I don’t misunderstand anything being portrayed in the article. Sometimes spending an extra 20-30 additional minutes for fact checking.
Trying to have a subsequent conversation with them is like pissing in the wind.
I really enjoyed explaining to a friend that the headline about outlawing child genital mutilation was referring to circumcision.
...that was sarcasm.
We need never be afraid of the vote of informed Americans. It is only the ignorant voter we have to fear, ignorant politically, no matter how fine his house or how expensive his schooling. Such people have never experienced democracy; they have merely enjoyed its benefits. It is hard to explain what democracy is; it is necessary to participate in it to understand it.
—Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
Unfortunately, there seems to be an awful lot of ignorance out there today.
Well, if goods become even more expensive, and wages fail to improve or get worse, then people tend to notice that more than the spin.
Sure you have very loud passionate politically active people who are game for "their team" to win no matter what and will listen to anything to rationalize their position and reject anything that disagrees, but a lot of folks are just looking at their personal circumstance and deciding if they think it's bad or not and voting either to continue or change, without a whole lot of consideration of what either side says will work or why things are the way they are, they just know "keep it going" or "change it out".
It is not a formula for a successful presidency
That all depends on how you define successful, doesn't it. I rather think Trump has a different definition than most of us.
Economists also said that Trump would tank the economy. Americans sleep.
Maybe if dear leader has his interests threatened people will listen.
Economists also said that Trump would tank the economy. Americans sleep.
Not even just "sleeping", Wallstreet is celebrating his win!
Because his tax cuts and numerous policies will facilitate an even greater transfer of wealth to the richest 1%.
They can commit all crimes harder and simply blame immigrants or the left while they throw shit at the fan.
Because like the recession in 08, everyone's hoping they can buy the dip and sell before everything goes kaboom.
Conservative economist Oren Cass warns that Donald Trump could jeopardize his presidency by focusing on donor and activist agendas rather than the priorities of swing voters who secured his victory.
Jeopardize how? He's already been elected, and it's not like a Republican congress is going to impeach the head of their own party for... checks notes... focusing on donor priorities, lol
The whole reason the Republican party exists in it's current form is to rubber stamp the agenda of the ownership class. Maybe he'll get his ass kicked in the midterms in two years, but so fucking what? He's got more than enough time to trash everything before then, especially since the RS are going in with an actual plan this time.
No, the only 'jeopardy' for Trump in his second term is that the hamberders might finally catch up with him and his black, unfeeling heart explodes.
Well, a scenario is that he cuts taxes and applies massive tariffs, resulting in a huge regressive expense paid the most by the poorest. That he lets companies be more sociopathic toward their workers and says "screw you" to anyone that needs welfare.
The end result if 2 years sees even more expensive bills and less safe employment and less recourse when the employment screws them over would be an electorate that demands him out and takes it out on the house and senate races. Perhaps to the point where they could remove him from office, and maybe even Vance too, and have a Democratic president finish out his term.
So his point is simply that while he pursues republican economic policy, which I suspect the author agrees with broadly, to take it easy and make sure he doesn't piss everyone off in the process.
Did this fucker say Trump shouldn’t focus on tax cuts & de-regulation?
Do people have fucking amnesia these days? That’s literally Trump’s strongest economic platform from his first term. The guy even said he wants to lower the corporate tax rate even lower to 15%!
How is this an economist?
That summary was a bit misleading compared to the linked summary.
"What Americans really want, sir, is fewer protections on the job and a weaker safety net,"
The conservative economist is not saying that he shouldn't have tax cuts and maybe some deregulation, is that he shouldn't screw the pooch for swing voters in the process.
As he looks toward his new term, Mr. Trump could claim a mandate to lead however he wishes,
As an example, I heard a MAGA politician on the radio the other day. Admittedly it didn't sound like anyone "hooked in" to Trump's circle, but I suspect his rhetoric was consistent. The interviewer put to him a question like "given how divisive things are, what do you hope Trump will do to be a good leader for all the nation, including those that didn't vote for him?". The response was that Trump won, therefore, there's no mandate to do anything for the losing voters, and the mandate was simple to do whatever Trump wants to do.
Further, Don Jr. said a key facet for anyone in Trump's administration is that there must be no one who would dare think themselves smarter than the president. Only yes men allowed.
Ultimately, people need to feel like they have viable livelihoods with a return to relatively affordable goods, and they need to see that within 2 years or else the house and senate will be hard blue come 2027. Of course, there's always the potential for dismantling the democracy, but the economist would probably think that would be disastrous for stability, and a grave threat to everything including economic concerns. So best outcome for him, as a conservative economist, is somehow making the electorate willingly want to keep the republicans, and he knows that Trump listening only to himself and hard core sycophants is not a recipe to make the electorate happy.
What is there to jeopardize? As long as he has the office, the dumbasses who helped him can't do shit once they realize their massive mistake. What are they gonna do? Not vote for him again? If he shockingly doesn't fuck with current term limits and elections, he's not up for election again. If he predictably does, their vote is meaningless since he's not going to leave the remotest chance things don't go his way.
He may not care about Trump's specific presidency, as much as he wants some conservative economic policy in general to maybe endure. This means he would want a republican house, senate, and presidency even after Trump's second term concludes, and really doesn't like the idea of going too hard core and the fallout causing a loss of that influence as early as 2027 in the mid terms.
"Conservative economist Oren Cass warns that Donald Trump could jeopardize his presidency by focusing on donor and activist agendas rather than the priorities of swing voters who secured his victor."
Oh my sweet sweet summer child... You were born wayyyyyyyyyyy after the Republicans stopped caring about the people. How much Kool-aid have you had? Please put the bottle down...
Why would he care? He can't get elected again. He's probably not even going to be alive many more years (or at least not mentally aware of anything)
He can’t get elected again
He's going to start talking about a third term within a month of taking office. At first they're going to write it off as "jokes" and then he's going to push it to the supreme court.
Something something it’s constitutional because democrat FDR and the first term didn’t count because we didn’t get to hang Mike Pence.
/s but not really
I’m sure his Supreme Court would be happy to rule the constitution unconstitutional.
Because the cons are "originalists", lol.
As much power as they have, they can't do that fortunately. So, they'll need to get creative. Something along the lines of "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice" really means twice consecutively, so a third term is good to go. As flippant as I sound about it, it is actually a possibility if Trump survives that long and wants to run again.
does trump give a fuck about any of this? he’s shown that he’s only out for himself. he doesn’t need to worry about re election, and he’s old enough there’s a good chance that he’ll either die in office or shortly afterwards.
Voters won't remember this anyway. They might be mad in 4 years but in 8 years they will vote for the same lunatics again.
In the same way that "every accusation is a confession" with conservatives, I just assume that all of Trump potential "downfalls" are just slight inconveniences at most.
Not sure how he could be "doomed". He'll probably die in office, without having paid his debt for anything he's done.
He won't live to regret anything, I'd wager. Also, even if he lives to 100, he's only getting one term, unless they go full autocratic and he and shitty gene pool form a dynasty, in which nothing he does will "doom" anything.
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There's no "could" about it.