People are ‘blatantly stealing my work,’ AI artist complains - with notes on a similar appeal that failed hard just recently
People are ‘blatantly stealing my work,’ AI artist complains - with notes on a similar appeal that failed hard just recently
AI artist Jason Allen submitted some Midjourney output, “Theatre D’Opera Spatial,” to the digital art category of the Colorado State Fair fine arts competition in 2022. He won, to some controversy.…
AI artist Jason Allen
Absolute degenerate.
I have also spent some time screwing around with AI art generators. No way I'm addressing my self as an artist for it. AI art can be useful in certain situations such as whipping together a stupid meme to share between some friends. It's not any talent involved, and it's not something you should consider as copyright worthy.
Creating nice art is available to anyone. It just require some creativity and talent if you want to love of it. Being an artist is not some basic human right. As plenty of "artists" believe.
AI artists are just the new version of "fractal artists" who for the most part just pick a color palette and run a Mandelbrot generator until they find an appealing image.
It's not nothing but it's not going to get you very far.
Even when people just ask if "I" made it, I specify the machine did. The arrogance needed to call yourself an artist when it was a prompt and nothing else, ouf.
Right? I used to think Kinkade was the pompous narcissist. That anyone would consider themselves an AI "artist" is absolutely wild.
Idk about copyright but im sure there's a lot of depth yet to develop for model capability and our methodology of interacting with them. Might be more of an art and science than the experimentation happening now.
i mean, it IS art. you are just using a tool that makes it much much easier to put your mind into the screen.
Thank heavens we have people like you to police who gets to be called an artist or not...
Thank heavens we have people like you to police who gets to be called the police...
Your position seems to be that art is whatever the US Copyright Office deems worthy of copyright.
"All Allen could copyright was what he did to the image himself" - so if he trained the model himself, would that make the work copyrightable? Does that mean midjourney has the copyright of all the images created with it?
The image gatcha does not create a new copyright. There might be a copyright in the text of a complex prompt (do you feel lucky in court?) Mere "sweat of the brow" does not generate a new copyright in the US, so e.g. retouching work on a photo does not generate a new copyright and photos of a public domain artwork do not create a new copyright.
This doesn't touch on the old copyrights of the stuff Midjourney trained on to make its computer-mediated collages. Those copyrights still exist.
Does the computer-mediated collage launder the previous copyrights? The answer is "do you feel lucky in court?"
so if he trained the model himself, would that make the work copyrightable?
I think if he "trained" the model on art he himself created you might have an argument.
Not in the US, there art can only be created by a human.
If it's created by an algorithm or animal supernatural being it's public domain.Interesting facts:
- when photography was invented there was a debate whether photos can be copyrighted
- if you claim to have written down something revealed to you by a supernatural entity, it's public domain
- the following image is public domain because it was taken by a monkey
So midjourney give it's users ownership, as do all the other image generation services.
That being said, what you quoted means that if someone generates an image and then further modifies it, then they can copyright it. If all they did was prompt the model and nothing else, then it isn't possible to copyright.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
Cant stop thinking about the http://allthemusic.info/ project. Would be a crazy amount of data but making every possible image and make it public domain. Unoriginal therefore uncopyrightable.