You mean to tell me authoritarians gonna authoritarian?
Inb4 anticolonialist and linkerbaan rage reply.
I haven't seen those names in a long time. Cause I blocked them, lol.
ROFL.. same.
Don't worry, they're still going and just as exhausting as ever. Only reason I keep them unblocked is so I can read the replies destroying whatever bad-faith arguments they make because it's entertaining.
Fuck all imperialist and hierarchical power structures. Fuck colonialism and fuck the police. Fuck fascists and the libs that enable them.
Having worked in some non-hierarchical non-profits and teams, sometimes you want an head chef to make a call when there are too many cooks in the kitchen.
Yes, but not hierarchy for hierarchies sake. Organization via consent is fine and encouraged. The problem is when it's done by force in an attempt to justify the hierarchy.
You are correct. "Unjust hierarchies" is probably the term I should have used. Some hierchical structures are going to be necessary in certain settings. What's important is that they're non-exploitative and entered into with real consent from all parties.
Hierarchy by legitimacy is indeed a tough nut to crack. It works well when the organisation has a simple, measurable performance indicator, and when its micro economics are simple. Make widgets, sell widgets is a great model for this kind of structure but yeah, non profits are notoriously difficult to self govern.
Careful. I got banned from the news community in Lemmy.ml for that.
You too eh?
My favorite part is the 'moderates' who insist they aren't tankies/conservatives yet spend all their time playing apologist for the same.
I got banned from [email protected] for pointing this out. I’m an anarchist, so these authoritarian cohorts look fairly similar to me.
do you mean [email protected]?
Sorry, yes, probably.
They admit it pretty readily, Trump is favored heavily on Hexbear.
If you are tired of tankies, just stop talking about them. They are NOT representative of the actual communists (at least worldwide). And by communism, I'm talking about the real one, the one which its final objective is a stateless and classless society.
It's almost like "left" and "right" are bullshit alignments, and instead we have a wide array of stances on different issues; in this case on the tolerance of personal freedom and expression.
It's almost like "left" and "right" are bullshit alignments
Uh... No they're not. They're very useful words to refer to a range of ideologies and principles that, although not perfectly defining, make a lot of sense to use.
and instead we have a wide array of stances on different issues
That's why there are subcategories in the left and the right.
Left and right can be useful, but it's only a single data point. If you get all of your political beliefs from a single data point then you're an idiot. As with everything, there is more nuance than that. It's not useless. It just isn't that encompassing.
Are tankies in the room with us? If you anti-communist types spent 1/10th the time criticising the actual existing fascists (Trump, Putin, LePen, Abascal, Meloni...) than your made up tankies, you'd use your time much more productively.
Yes, they're in the room with us. Their instance is lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml
I spend most of my political insults on Trump, Putin, LePen, and Meloni, tyvm
Lmao
yeee not quite horseshoe theory tho, is it?
after all, the meme is just pointing out that both conservatives and tankies are pro-authority. said nothing about left and right
It's all they have! How dare you take their only argument from them! /s
You are 100% right though. It's a ham fisted deflection technique. I will defend them from people outright calling them fascists. Because there is a difference. But they are both authoritarian and in the end do a lot of the same things. Which should be discouraged no matter their intentions.
THERE IS NO LEFT AND RIGHT ONLY MASTER AND “THE LIBS”!
The problem isn't with the meme conflating tankies with fascists in authoritarianism, it's with the usage of the word tankie to refer to anything left of liberalism, that's when this meme doesn't apply. Tankie in the original sense (i.e. Stalinist), sure.
Liberals and living in a completely made up reality, no better combo!
Yep everyone that disagrees with you is just a liberal. It couldn't be that many different ideologies disagree with you.
Even if you still somehow mistakenly think that Marxist leninism is a valid and worthwhile ideology to pursue. After it's been disproven so many ways. (As liberalism also has) Feeling the need to defend those who lack even more critical thinking skills like tankies. Will always make people still think less of you.
Staliboo fascists and appropriating aesthetic from actual leftists to pretend they aren't just fascists who swap "the nation" for "the working class" in their rhetoric.
Slim difference, though it is a difference. And they aren't fascists. We have a word that accurately describes both though. Authoritarian. And yes, it doesn't matter where you derive your "authority" from. Authoritarianism is always wrong.
