Also the "actual fucking content" is a mindless repost bot, with a bunch of reposted comments trying to build fake internet points so when the accounts switch to being spam advertising bots they last a little longer.
just reminds me to Nolan Sorrento from ready player one
This is the first of our planned upgrades. Once we can roll back some of Halliday's ad restrictions, we estimate we can sell up to 80% of an individual's visual field before inducing seizures
idk which one is more sad, that reddit is actually doing this or that i had to specify "ready player one" when looking up the exact quote because otherwise it referred me to completely serious marketing articles
I’m one of the few that never used the third party apps for Reddit during my time there. Only the official app. And even I could tell you that app was miserable. No exaggeration, every third post is a massive ad. Once you’ve scrolled far enough your entire feed becomes ads. You have to close out/refresh to make it go back to normal.
Wefwef is a glitchy web app that doesn’t let me scroll or post comments sometimes made and maintained by some dude in his basement, and it’s still preferable to the official app of a company seeking a multimillion dollar IPO
Ah, good point- I was mostly being hyperbolic to illustrate just how shitty the Reddit app was.
I think all the previous redditors did the same thing I did when signing up. Lemmy.world sounds the most general, so that’s the instance I used. I’ll give a smaller/more local one a try and see if that improves the performance!
Regardless, I really don’t care much about the glitches or slowdown if it means I don’t have to see a full screen “He Gets Us” ad every two goddamn seconds.
On Liftoff it's needed to be logged in on every instance (it handles multiple accounts), so I don't find it convenient even though I admire how polished the interface is.
On Liftoff it's needed to be logged in on every instance (it handles multiple accounts), so I don't find it convenient even though I admire how polished the interface is.
not saying wefwef is perfect(i personally can't use it bc use kbin and not lemmy) but it will probably improve a ton since there are many new people joining lemmy/kbin
this. the corpos have pushed us to apps so much that many of us forgot that web browsers are very much an option.
lemmy has been the only thing that made me open the regular firefox in a long time. for the most part, i use firefox focus, because everything you wanna stay logged into makes you use an app. no exaggeration there. but lemmy's web ui actually works because it's been made by people who just want you to be able to use it, not people who want you to sell you on an app instead that can track you way better than your browser would ever allow.
I tried out different apps because of the autoloading of new posts that happens on the site. I think that might have been fixed in the update, but now I'm having issues logging into lemmy.world on the site, because if the update. I keep reminding myself it's early days and things will get smoother soon.
As someone that only used the official app on iOS, I have to disagree. For me every 9 or 10 posts in the feed there was a "promoted" post. Using the compact view they aren't huge ads like OPs one here, just like any other text post but they say "promoted" so you know it's an ad. Also never had this "entire feed becomes ads" either.
Given how buggy it is, it's entirely possible. Also, ad targeting exists. He could be a member of specific demographics (age, income, location) being targeted by a lot of ads, thus he ended up seeing a lot of ads.
I was using Jerboa but just started using wefwef a couple days ago. I really like the look and feel, plus sorting Top by 1/6/12 hours is dope, since I tend to see a lot of new stuff when I was just doing Top by day.
I remember, I was on holiday 4 or 5 years ago. I was sitting at the bar having my morning coffee and browsing reddit and I was getting annoyed that if I went to get a drink from the bar when I came back and turned the screen back on it would reset my position in the comments.
So, I asked around and was recommended RIF. Not only did it keep comment position, but it was just all round in every single way better.
Legit thought Lemmy was serving me an advert for a moment there...!
But yeah, the official R*ddit app is Garbo, they even bought Alien Blue years ago and have just failed to keep pace with Apollo, RIF or BaconReader. This API move is just a monopolisation of their content stream, hugely anti-competition.
Even if they sorted out their app, rolled back API to free, I'd never go back. Fuck Spez.
While spez is indeed a truly horrible piece of work, we should also keep in mind that he wouldn't be doing this without having some serious backing from shareholders. CEOs are the public figure presented to us for the 2 minutes' hate but let's not forget that these decisions are taken in huge boardrooms. So maybe we should say 'fuck spez et al' instead of just 'fuck spez'.
isnt that what happened to Ellen Pao and how we got Spez? they promoted Pao, she took heat for firing Victoria, then Spez stepped in and "saved the day" (i.e., the board discarded Pao after the ritual sacrifice was complete and put in their new puppet)?
I will be real with you here Spider - if you follow anything objectionable up stream you'll always end up with a handful of ethically and morally bankrupt capitalists. My emphatic "fuck Spez" isn't just groupthink on this occasion. I appreciate that CEO is a job, and ultimately there's a level of corporate responsibility - but Spez lied to us, ignored us (the AmA was laughably bad, answered 6 comments disingenuously and then dipped), attempted to defame or gaslight 3rd party Devs, violated data protection laws to preserve the sinking ship and has directed the entire company to basically dig in and starve us out. Users are the only thing bringing value to the platform - and this change is only harming the most productive users.
He might have the faith of the greed council backing his idiotic decision - but they weren't the ones pissing off of the top diving board into our swimming pool.
He could have stood with us, we could have had transparent communication and even if we didn't get compromise we could have had at least a conversation about why this is happening. but instead of any good faith engagement he decided to tell a bunch of transparent lies and throw a tantrum and then change the rules of moderation to reduce our power to fight for what we wanted.
Yep since the first party app's primary goal is to generate revenue (over actually providing a good user experience), it's packed full of everything to achieve revenue generation:
Ads
Tons of tracking to figure out how long you viewed something, what you clicked on, and so on to build an advertising profile that can be sold
Obtrusive Ads
Lots of suggested/recommended stuff to get you to keep your eyeballs on the app longer
Ads masquerading as real submissions
Paid promotions
Third party apps don't have revenue generation as their sole highest priority (if at all), so naturally they strip out all of that stuff which makes for a terrible user experience.
You're browsing /r/stopgambling? Here are some gambling ads for you!
This sort of thing happened several times over there. I'm making up this example (I think), but there were a few posts on the mod subs begging reddit not to do things like that.
They already had RPAN which was basically the livestreaming part of Reddit. It was okay, some fun shitposty streams. I stopped using it after I started using old.reddit + Apollo.
Thank you for your sacrifice. If I ever had a hint of an inclination to disregard the common wisdom and try reddit's official app, now it's permanently gone.
I had nearly the same reaction! Assumed it was Lemmy as well but on a specific app. Hopped in the comments to figure out which one to avoid, very relieved it's one that I'm already not using.
If you didn't log into the apps, official or third party, r/All was absolutely depressing. Apollo at least gave me the ability to filter r/All when I did check it.
That fixes the ads but still the official reddit app is a huge backstep from the now cutoff apps that made browsing reddit a pleasure. It's just a rippoff off all the terible algorihtm based Facebook, Twitter and Instagram apps that constantly show me posts that i've neither subscribed to nor I am interested to see. It's a shame.
There is an option in revanced manager to patch reddit sync to use your own oauth client id. I just tried it out and the patched reddit sync just crashed when it start loading the frontpage. oh well.
Yes, it's initially made to patch youtube. The recommended youtube apk to patch right now is v18.19.35, or you can download pre-patched apk of youtube here: https://github.com/revanced-apks/build-apps/releases . You'll also need to install Vanced MicroG if your phone is not rooted.
I couldn't even get pass the login screen since I only lurked and never made an account (despite spending over a decade browsing reddit). I remember they used to let you use the app without logging in.
Holy wow, I had actually forgotten how shitty the site had become. I was always ready to open it and quickly scroll a couple times to get past the initial garbage, to hopefully find something worthwhile. That ask reddit post is peak "help the AI write an article" trash.
The most sleazy thing it does is that if you want to download or share an image with your friends in, say, a text chain, it brands that image with Reddit crap.
They go completely out of their way to make the app unusable.
It's a stupid idea that brings them no value and it's user-hostile.
I didn't realize it could be turned off though! I guess that's useful for when I hold my nose and scroll quickly through the meme subreddits to find things for my meme text chains.
Right now Relay for Reddit is working on a subscription model and has been granted a extension period. It's currently free to use. Not sure if I'll bother paying for it to stay on Reddit, but for now I can still use Reddit without the official app.
Good god, that content is so awful. Sports, shootings, parenting. So glad we have Lemmy. It feels more like the old internet where it's mostly tech nerd focused.
Whoa there cowboy, not so fast. The users will pay to see all 100% of the ads. Heh this guy, 'give the users a cut', am I right? PATY WHERE IS MY K? WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR?
Even ignoring the ads, it’s just an astonishingly bad piece of software. It feels like it was written in a weekend by someone who’d just finished reading Programming for Dummies.
Back in 2021 Reddit released an update for the official app that caused scrolling to stutter, instantly heating up my battery and deplete battery life at an absurd rate. This was on Apple’s newest top phone at the time (12 Pro Max.)
I immediately knew something was fucky, so I switched to Apollo that same night. I checked back for about 3 more updates over a few weeks. During that time, Reddit never acknowledged the bug or fixed it. Since then, it looks like they’ve repeatedly caused the same issue with iOS and some android phones.
If they didn’t shit the bed back then, I’d never have discovered Apollo or realized it was better in every way - not just at not physically destroying my new phone.
And now here we are again, discovering new and better alternatives in Lemmy and decentralization thanks to Reddit’s incompetent fuckery. Thanks Reddit!
Something I liked about the official app, that no other seemed to have, was the ability to flip through posts, one to the next, without having to return to your feed. If anyone knows of a Lemmy app that can do this, let me know please!
The official reddit app would frequently not load images/posts/comments etc or even sometimes fully stop loading anything at all. I have never had these kind of issues with the third party apps, or much of any other apps of any type for that matter.
I hadn't used anything except my account logged in through RiF for 13 years. When I checked the front page as a guest I realized finally just how bad reddit is. All the posts were hot garbage surrounded by ads. I honestly don't know how people use reddit now.
More and more I think that might be the point. In the absence of users having control over the content they see, the only users left will be the ones who are naive, not tech savvy, and who have very high tolerances for manipulation: people who don't leave because either they don't know how, can't understand or remember a possible better alternative, or can't muster the effort.
These are incidentally also the same people who are most likely to be unable to distinguish ads from content, most likely to click on ads, and most likely to engage with click- and rage- bait content. That is: people most vulnerable to corporate predation.
It's just like scam robocalls. It's bad by design, because half the point is to immediately weed out anybody smart enough not to fall for it.
what really makes me sick is -- these fucking people are completely devoid of any taste or pride or care. it looks like absolute fucking garbage and they do not care; they're wealthy beyond belief WITH OR WITHOUT destroying reddit, but still, they must.
@RealNooshie looks awful. Literally not a single thing you actually subscribed to. Not to mention the actual content is almost nothing (that single post at the top from r/AskReddit)
F-Droid keeps nagging me to update Infinity (which I refuse to do). Currently my Galaxy A32 5G is running v5.4.2 and it's still showing up-to-date content every time I refresh. I know from a security standpoint this is a bad idea, but until we come up with a better solution, F-Droidstill has it.
Do not use that page. Just swipe your finger on the left side to focus only on your subscibe subreddits. It won't show all this freaking drama and too many adds. Read carefully and check the top left corner because some ads looked like a subreddit page and don't freaking click it cause it's an ad.