Amazon execs destroyed years of evidence before FTC action, agency says
Amazon execs destroyed years of evidence before FTC action, agency says
Amazon allegedly destroyed communications, turned controversial programs on and off, and knowingly raised prices for consumers, according to unsealed documents.
Amazon execs destroyed years of evidence before FTC action, agency says::Amazon allegedly destroyed communications, turned controversial programs on and off, and knowingly raised prices for consumers, according to unsealed documents.
When the fuck are they going to stop treating these companies and executives with kid gloves?
Why do they do these things, shred evidence, lie on the stand, and break almost every white collar law there is? Because there are little to no consequences. And if there are it’s for people in the “out” group. New money.
Crack down on all of them. Shredding evidence should be an admission of guilt. Full stop.
When Citizens United gets overturned (i.e. never).
But the second you steal money from them, youll be only trial for your life pretty darn quick.
How optimistic to think you'd make it to trial for your theft.
You think the government is running the country? Have you been living under a rock?
They'll fuck you raw, and you'll say thanks daddy!
Split Amazon into retail and web services and then further split them into multiple different companies. Amazon has gotten way too big and stifling competition along the way.
Do the same to Facebook too while we're at it. Fucking hate speech central.
Amazon, meta, Google, Microsoft, Apple...
Even though I'm not a fan of Apple, I am not sure how it could be split. Unlike other companies mentioned, Apple is firmly in consumer electronics business, except for Apple TV+ which is a recent addition.
Their software products also exist to work only on specific hardware.
Also, only today I figured out that they have their own office suite lol. Don't know why I never thought about it before
They (technically) already are. I work for Amazon, but I don't get paid by "Amazon". I get paid for the subsidiary I work for.
Splitting is fine, but it's easily dealt with by megacorps. If anything, if the idea is floated, it's probably because they're absolutely fine with it.
If you want to break Amazon apart, do the one thing they hate. Enable their employees to unionize, and empower them to fight the decades-long HR machine that ruins corporate employees lives.
The moment you seperate AWS from the rest, the rest will shut down.
If Amazon (retail) can't survive on it's own without exploiting workers and all the other crap they do, then we'll be better off without it.
I'm not just asking to separate AWS. I want AWS to further split into different companies.
Gotta go further and deeper then that too. There are other, larger and more diverse companies that are hiding in plain site behind the more popular business like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc...
Corporate death penalty should be on the table for stuff like this.
This would create a big strain on the job market. Good luck dealing with a flood of >50k employees looking for a job (vs a new employee fresh out of college)
That’s not how this works at all.
There are plenty of ways to deal with this, and issue a death penalty to the corporation while not punishing the workers:
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Forced turnover of executives and board members (with jail time and high % fines), corporate watchdog for x amount of years
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Dissolve the mega-corp into smaller corporations, and/or force all subsidiaries into a planned disengagement from parent company
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Bail-out in the form of state ownership by government buying majority stake
In any of the above, or even in a complete mega-corp dissolution the demand doesn’t disappear. If you want to have the argument that these “oh so wonderful stewards of business” are the reason people have jobs in the first place, you can’t ignore that demand is the reason those very same executives have jobs too.
If they tear it down, someone will build something else to replace it.
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What eating the Rich Did for Japan
Something would eventually take their place. The strain would be temporary.
Treat the destruction of evidence as proof of guilt and assume the worst case scenario. Ya know, the thing we do with criminals.
We don’t turn destruction of evidence as proof of guilt with criminals, it’s just a separate crime.
Legally we don't, but generally, as people... I think most of us look at destruction of evidence as at least evidence of guilt.
Since when is that proof of guilt? I can see it being it's own specific crime, but it proves nothing.
It only works with people. Capitalism.
Yeah, I know that. I didn't say what WILL happen, just what SHOULD
They'll fine Amazon a pittance, pocket it, declare victory, and there's nothing we can do about it.
Nothing legal we can do.
The executives need to be charged and Amazon should be put on a tight regulatory leash, if not broken up completely
Legislative to CEO: You get a $5 fine. Now stop doing that or I'll increase it to $10! >:(
Get money out of politics and these problems go away (because they will be dealt with properly).