Just say 'No' to TERFs and tankies!

A faschist with a red flag.

The term origenaly referred to lefties that supported the Soviet Union rolling tanks into nations protesting for democracy.

Modern tankies defend historical "communist" states and their successer states like Russia. They can often be seen glorifying dictators and denying genocides.

Authoritarian leftists. Stalinists, basically. The kind of people who look at protests being crushed by tanks and say "Good, those reactionary civilian pigs deserved it!"

I'm too tired and busy tonight to make a case here, but I would just point out that lemmy.world has defederated from anyone who can explain to you what a tankie believes and why, and you are only getting one side of the story in this thread.

I think most Americans who lived through the Iraq war are aware that America lies, but still not aware of the extent of it. The main targets of those lies are socialist states. When the intent of the lies is to make socialist states look monstrous, anyone who claims otherwise gets smeared with the same brush: a defender of monstrous states. It's a rhetorical firewall.

If you want to know what tankies believe and why, you should ask them. Whether you find them persuasive or not, you'll at least have learned what a subset of the human population believes and it will round out your perspective on the world.

The two main lemmy instances where you can find tankies are hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml. Hexbear is larger and more active, and their range of perspectives is a little broader because they include anarchists. Hexbear's list of federated instances is here https://hexbear.net/instances, and lemmygrad's is here https://lemmygrad.ml/instances.

What centrist liberals call anyone who criticizes US imperialism.

You can choose to not identify as part of the queer community, I feel a similar way about my ethnic heritage. However, you will be prescribed as a member of that group by not only members of the group, but by bigots who hate those people. Even if you don't feel connected to gay or queer people, people in those communities and bigots who hate those people will both consider you as part of the community because you like people of the same gender. When looking at people in aggregate, others will group you based on traits like that whether you like it or not.

This matters to your well being because political groups tend to act in accordance with how other people in that group have acted. In the case of tankies and TERFs, both groups use arguments that appeal to queer identities, claiming that it is in the best interests of gay people to side with them and that gay people have always sided with them in positive ways. The recent history directly contradicts these claims as terfs openly ally with self described fascists. Tankies are defined by their unwillingness to question the authority and leadership self described communist states, most of whom openly discriminate against minorititized groups, like gay people.

Going back to my feelings about my ethnic heritage, I don't identify strongly as a Latina, but racists don't care what I think. They'll discriminate against me based on what they think of me. Thus, for my own well being, I am incentivized to know about the history of discrimination against Latinos.

tankies are actually right wing extremeists

If you use connect, you can ban instances.

what's wrong with lemmy.ml?

I didn't see much of them before that TBH.

It's tribalism, sexists, they have decided an enemy who they feel has somehow collectively acted to wrong them.

Where I live its like everyone is pro MTF but against FTM. So you have all these transwomen and nonbinary people who claim they hate terfs but at the same time, they'll act like FTM isn't a real thing and they'll give it a different name and just say "genderqueer" even if you're talking about someone who is FTM and they refuse to acknowledge the term "Transman" but love Transwomen.

Like it really feels like there is so much in-fighting in the LGBTQ+ community. They often talk about acceptance but I rarely see them put that into practice outside of Pride events.

That’s part of what I don’t understand about the whole ‘women and men are equal, there are no real differences’, held up next to ‘call me a [wo]man not a [wo]man.’

It looks like one side is saying a persons behavior/likes/dislikes is tied to expression of genitalia, and the other is saying it isn’t. And these are often the same person saying both in different circumstances.

TY, I found it in settings / blocks. is there a way to do it from the front page?

Yeah, they wouldn't know that because they've been living under a rock this whole time.

*Exclusionary

What you just said is a group of radical feminists that is exclusively trans.

People who live China for the sake of being contrarian but wouldn't last a week in China.

I'm not a tankie or even a leftist, but life in China is not that hard in most cities for foreigners. Or that much harder from most other places. Yes there are a lot of problems but you dilute the real criticism when you act like it wouldn't be feasible for most people to live there. Just like how most people can live in the US(assuming they have legal residence)

Reactionary is used to attack people like a belief system, but it is not. It is acted like an ideology when it is just an insult, that's not to say I can't think the insult fits. But you can pretty clearly tell when something is an insult based on if anyone would reasonably describe themself as it. Just own up to it and insult someone if you want to rather than use tankie pseudoscientific slanders that justified killing and imprisoning "counter-revolutionaries".

The tankie belief system is that someone either ally or reactionary- don't accept their rules.

“Oh my god, that person questioned my narrative about “x” they must be whomever I’m othering because I’m insecure and it’s easier to take trash than deeply reflect why. I’m going to label them that, that’ll teach them.” Please. 🥱