All I said was that at the federal level abortion still is legal(which it is), and you just went on a tirade against me...

I don't think it is?

Anything that is not illegal is legal. Federally abortion is not illegal.

What? It is federally legal, it is just some states have bans. Contrast that with something like weed where its federally illegal but some states say they won't prosecute.

Still is federally

No, he thinks raping children is a good thing.

Again, he never said that.

Saying “thought” implies he no longer does.

He claims he no longer does, can you read his mind?

Yes you are.

Quote what exactly I said that was either of those things.

Quote where I said they're the same thing.

I posted it because of the crypto connection, also posted it in c/news

Weird, I didn't even get that, but thanks for the archive link

What? I didn't get a paywall so I assumed there wasn't one sorry

The US effectively has several parties, they are just within the coalition of the DNC and GOP

Why do you keep lying about this?

I'm not, you are the one lying about what I said.

He repeatedly defended raping children.

Yep, and that was very bad, and I never denied that. I denied that he said it was good.

He thinks raping children should be legal.

Thought*

He thinks anybody against raping children is bigoted.

Thought*

He thinks raping children is good.

He never said that

Stop equating drinking alcohol to raping a child.

I didn't.

I’m being toxic?

You're intentionally lying about what I said as an excuse to insult me rather than actually respond to what I said.

Mate you’re being an apologist for genocide and child rape

No I'm not

It’s just an endless circle of you defending Russian genocide and defending child rape with you, isn’t it?

I did neither of those things. You are openly ignoring what I said.

RMS is an advocate of child rape.

RMS did not do that.

Genocide is bad. Child rape is bad.

I agree.

I'm sorry to say though I am reporting you for trolling because you repeatedly accusing me of saying stuff I never said, refuse to acknowledge anything I say- then continue to lie about me without providing any evidence for your lies.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/7ee74c1b5b589619a13c6318c9fbd0d6ac7c334a.camel@HansenPartnership.com/

Yes I would agree, but its unclear if this again means all Russians who are employed by any company. Because all Russian companies are sanctioned

You said you support the slaughter of innocent people. I'm not worried about spies, this is a public forum.

That said all they need to do is mandate use of AI during development

Wtf does that mean? Like what if you know exactly what you want to do? Do you have to ask GPT to review your code?

He says people are bigoted if they’re against people fucking children. That’s him saying having sex with children is a good thing.

Here's an analogy there is no way you can lie about(though you'll probably find a way): Saying someone is bigoted if they make fun of arachnophobia is not the same thing as saying arachnophobia is good. And I'm not equating arachnophobia to pedos. Opposing opposition to X is not the same thing as supporting X, its possible to be neutral on X. I'm not neutral on pedos, I think pedos are bad and gross. I think it is wrong to be neutral on pedos, but it is factually inaccurate to say that being "neutral on X" == "X is a good thing".

Agreed. However if you said “I think it’s unfortunate alcohol is banned. If you are against consuming alcohol then you are a bigot.” Then that instead points to you believing alcohol is good.

Thank you!!!! This makes me so happy genuinely!!! You responded to what I actually said!! So you did get it! So why do you keep lying about it?

Anyways, my excitement aside, you're fine to think that. But I do disagree that that's the analogy of what you're saying Stallman said, instead it would be closer to "I think it’s unfortunate alcohol is banned. If you are against letting people consuming alcohol then you are a bigot.”

Which is not necessarily pro-alchohol. Another example, imagine a government that banned a religion, say Buddhism, you could say "I think it’s unfortunate Buddhism is banned. If you are against letting people practice Buddhism then you are a bigot.”- that statement is not necessarily pro-Buddhist, its just anti-prohibition of Buddhism.

Yes it is.

Awww my excitement is gone

No it fucking isn’t. Having mild autism is not an explanation for thinking pinning down a four year old and giving them some dick is a good thing.

It literally is an explanation. You're free to think the explanation is wrong and bad, but its still an explanation.

Not because of autism. Autism doesn’t make you like that at all.

I didn't say it was because of autism. I said its because he failed to empathize with victims, yk a symptom of "autism".

Yep, I’ve already covered this. He did a complete 180 2 days after it became apparent his job was on the line. It wasn’t genuine remorse, it was a last-ditch effort to save his own skin.

He's still fired from MIT so why doesn't he backtrack if he still believes it?

Being autistic doesn’t cause you to believe raping kids is a good thing. Stop pretending it does.

Never said it does, stop lying about me.

Yes you did.

Having a glass of wine is not like fucking a four year old. Stop.

My pain is immeasurable. Please quote where I said those exact words.

Yes he did. And his opinion has not changed.

Why'd he stop saying it then?

I hope you’re trolling, because if not you’re a fucking psychopath who denies genocide and thinks keeping a toddler as a sex slave is morally equivelant to having a Heineken, and that both should be equally legal.

Genuinely why are you still responding if you honestly believe that's what I said? Just to insult me?

Please for the love of god be a troll.

I don't hide behind a pseudonym to be toxic to people on the internet.

Yes you did.

Quote it then, stop with the gaslighting, give the quote.

Do you think Russia cares about that? They’re happily conscripting young men into war. If they tell a maintainer to introduce a vulnerability otherwise their family will be killed, do you really think they’ll say “No. My name will then be tarnished in the Linux circle! I’d rather let myself and my family die than let that happen!”

I think that that is not an effective long term tactic. XZ relied on kilobytes of binary files to be blindly called, that sort of thing doesn't happen in the Linux kernel. Its also not a good idea to use a real Russians working for real defense contractors if you don't want to raise suspicion.

How convenient 🇷🇺.

What?

Regardless, that is the definition.

That is a definition.

Go look it up yourself, sealion. It won’t take you long.

I have that's why I asked, I've seem him say that Russians and Ukrainians are one people, but not that there is no such thing as Ukrainian culture. Another question though, why are you even still responding if you're just going to insult me? No one is going to read this far into an old thread to see you "humiliate me" and you're not going to change my mind through insults. Is is just a convenient punching bag?

I didn’t say it alone did. I said it as part of a bunch of other things.

And I responded to those other things. You seem to be ignoring half of what I say.

Of fuck off you genocide denialist.

I'm not, and I'm not even say what's happening in Ukraine definitely isn't a genocide. Just with the information I have it doesn't look like it. I was hoping you might have more information on the topic, and you somewhat did, I didn't know about the child abduction thing.

Forcible mass abduction of children with the specific intent of destroying Ukrainian culture is not the same as a family adopting a child who happened to have been born in another country.

I agree, that's why I said what I said. You know the next sentence where I specifically said they're not the same thing.

What the fuck is that equivalence? This is like your “child rape and drinking alcohol are both bad, but I don’t think the state should have the right to ban them” bullshit all over again.

Where did I say child rape shouldn't be banned? You should work for TMZ or something, because it seems like you're great at picking out tiny snippets of sentences and ignoring the full context. I never once equated child rape and drinking alchohol. Or that child abduction is the same as adoption- seeing as I literally said that child abduction and adoption are the same thing, and this seems like its mostly child abduction.

I see the blatant attempt at destroying all Ukrainian culture (i.e. committing genocide) means nothing to you.

Signs are not valuable, if the Nazis invaded Poland then decided they were just going to change the signs then I don't think they would be quite as remembered. The Nazis I'm certain did change the signs- but that is pretty insignificant thing to care about to be honest. The child abduction is far more important to focus on than signs.w

He literally says it’s bad that child rape is illegal, then goes on about how if you’re against it you’re a bigot. In what world is that not him saying it’s good?

Because they're different things? Again this is why I said the analogy. Saying prohibition of alcohol is bad is different from saying alcohol is good. That's not equating alcohol and pedos, its an analogy on how saying something is good is different from saying it shouldn't be illegal.

Saying you believe his is autistic is a disgusting defence. Being autistic doesn’t excuse believing it’s a good thing to have sex with children.

Its an explanation of why I think he might have had an opinion I think is disgusting. The defense is that he admitted he was wrong and apologized. Having a wrong belief isn't a crime, he didn't rape any kids, so he doesn't have anything to be "punished" for. And being wrong in the past about ethics is completely different from beliefs on free software- and you know that. You're just using it as an ad hominem.

Autistic people don’t believe that.

What? There are plenty of autistic people that have a wide variety of beliefs

Yes you did equate them.

Having a glass of wine and pinning down your toddler and fucking him are NOT the same. Jesus Christ.

No I didn't, stop lying about me. Analogy is not equating, I have no clue why this has to be explained.

And Stallman doesn’t think the same. He thinks it’s good.

He did not say its good, and he does now think the same as he said.

And yeah. You think it’s as bad as sipping a pint of ale…

I am tempted to think you're trolling seeing as you're ignoring what I actually wrote and instead just going for cheap attacks. Please stop engaging in bad faith.