There are ancient religions still alive today. A religion being ancient isn’t how long it’s been since people stopped practicing it, it’s how long it’s existed.
Dune is more like his mom manipulated an established religion to place her son as the figurehead to utilize these people for power, and they eventually fight a holy war in his name
Nah. Dune mostly starts out on a desert planet, and the kid ends up leading a resistance to make a full strike against the current Imperial power structure. And in later episodes of Dune, the boy's visions of the future threaten to send him down a path toward evil, but he chooses to risk everything to save a dear friend...
Is it even a religion if the magic and the lore are actually real and not just propaganda slogans to rule the gullible masses? It always bugged me how people draw these kinds of parallels. I mean come on.
Yes. The religion is the mythology and mysticism built up around the scientific fact of the force.
It's the same way that the church uses the "feeling of the spirit". I.e. the euphoria that people get when singing loudly together. That doesn't require religion either, but it's been co-opted by it.
The Jedi order is predominantly a paradigm- a way of seeing and perceiving the Force.
There’s other Force traditions that have existed- most of which were in fact stamped out with a few being absorbed into the order.
Predominately, the Order did that by taking force sensitive children and brainwashing them to follow their own paradigm rather than the paradigm of the culture they were “born to.”
Not, in point of fact, like how Christian churches forced indigenous children into their schools and brainwashing them to follow their ways. Or trying to.
If we knew for a fact that the Judeo-Christian god was real, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, etc would still all be religions. Just because the force is real in Star Wars doesn't change the fact that the doctrine around being a Jedi makes it a religion/faith.