Russia could start a major war in Europe within 5 years, Danish intelligence warns
Russia could start a major war in Europe within 5 years, Danish intelligence warns
Summary
Denmark’s Defense Intelligence Service warns that Russia could launch a large-scale war in Europe within five years if NATO appears weak or divided, especially if the U.S. does not intervene.
The report outlines a timeline where Russia could attack a neighboring country within six months, escalate to a regional Baltic conflict in two years, and potentially engage NATO-wide by 2029.
The assessment comes as Trump pressures NATO members to increase defense spending and has suggested the U.S. might not defend allies who fail to meet financial commitments.
bold of them to say it's within 5 years. probably more like 6 months.
With what resources are they gonna do that with?
So is Ukraine in Asia or something?
I’m tired of living in weeks, boss
Major war already started 3 years ago. Europe sat on its hands, and America is looking for the door.
Boy, it sure would be bad if the US population had voted a Russian stooge into the presidency for the next four years. Oh wait…
Title is misleading, since there is already a major war in Europe started by russia
Headlines from 2011
With what? They can't even handle war in Ukraine and they run out of plenty of hardware.
I do not have an English translation but in this interview a lieutenant general of the German Bundeswehr says that they are observing that not all new supplies are being pushed to the Ukrainian front lines and instead new stockpiles are being created.
My personal expectation is that Putin will attempt one more push in Ukraine once mud season is over, take what he can get and then agree to another peace deal (Minsk 3 anyone?). He will then take some time to restructure and reinforce the military before again "coming to the aid of suppressed Russian minorities", this time in places like Georgia, Moldova or Armenia. Ukraine is off the table because they will use the time to reinforce as well.
Unfortunately, if they could foresee the consequences of their own actions, the war in Ukraine wouldn't even have started
Hey, it's just a quick special military operation to Kyiv, in and out in three days! Surely nothing can go wrong.
IIRC there was talk after it went south that the yes-men around Putin had made him believe that not only would Ukraine not fight back, but the people would join the Russian troops in celebration for being "liberated" and help them, and that's why they didn't even think that failure was a possibility.
If they capture Ukraine, they will have a fresh pool of conscripts, not to mention Ukraine’s impressive military technology.
And a never ending insurgency?
those people aren't going to join the russian army willingly.
The country will resemble european afghanistan. it will be one of the bloodiest insurgencies in history.
the only reason a Ukrainian would willingly join the russian army is because he's either a mentally handicapped traitor. or he's furious at how the West betrayed and used his country like a pawn.
The agency offers three scenarios that could occur if the Ukraine conflict stops or becomes frozen, working from the assumption that Russia does not have the capacity to wage war with multiple countries at the same time.
This is about how quickly the Russian war machine and economy can rebuild their capability to attack again. IIRC the report by the Danish Intelligence Service assumes that the Ukraine war stops now and that Europe does not increase its defensive capabilities.
What are they gonna start a major war with? Their one "functional" 5th Gen "stealth" fighter that has the radar cross section of a Boeing 747 and no replacement parts?
They gonna start shitting out t-34s again like it's WW2?
They have lost the majority of their best vehicles and their trained soldiers.
If nukes didn't exist they would already have been obliterated by now.
Yep. At this point, we should fear millions of Russian refugees on our borders when their country finally collapses.
yup. and they still managed to win. It doesnt matter how many russians die, the mafia is still in charge, its detractors in the country have all been killed or imprisoned, and europe is too afraid to fight them other than mutually assured nuclear annihilation.
they cant fight for shit, but they are very lucky that americans are so fucking stupid.
Man Europe needs to build up their military quick. Too long you've relied on the US but now the US is unreliable depending on who is in office
they've sat on their hands this entire time
they had a wait and see attitude until the US election came trump won, they wait and saw they sat on their hands some more.
Russia's conventional military is cooked, but all they need to do is launch a few hundred missiles at Europe, and Europe will tear itself apart with countries refusing to honor Article 5, and bam. Fait accompli, NATO dissolves.
With what troops and hardware? This is ridiculous. I mean if Putin has a few working nukes, sure he could launch them. But he doesn't have anything else left. It's all been destroyed.
Russia has started up a war economy, scaling up production of weapons, tanks, etc.
Putin probably waits untill Trump destroys NATO and is just taking his time to prepare.
The only reason Ukraine has been holding on for this long is because all the stuff they got from the US and EU. If that stops it's not going to last long.
Pete Hegseth already completely fucked Ukraine by saying they need to give up on joining NATO and just accept that Russia can keep all the occupied areas. It's like the Trump administration just wants to kiss Putin's ass.
Russia can't produce tanks. They can only refit soviet era stocks and build a few ifvs. There are almost no soviet era stocks left. They are using ~~late ww2 era tractors ~~
civillian carschinese golf cartsdirt bikese scootersmules for gods sake. They are producing vast amounts of drones though and are one of two countries in the world experienced in drone warfare.the weaker NATO gets, the more likely we see nuclear war.
if the USA was to say, abandon the alliance, or not honor Article 5. the British and French may just immediatley Nuke Russia if they move into eastern europe.
Nazi Russia pact 2: America throws Europe to the wolves after creating its own role it now uses as an excuse to blackmail world peace and climate for lithium and hate because Mars Hateopia is no longer feasible in time for Elon-aloo.
Either France or the UK can easily fill in. Both have nuclear submarines. Mutually assured destruction baby.
France and the UK’s nuclear arsenal is minuscule compared to the US stockpile.
And a lot of the nukes at NATO bases are on loan from the US, so if the US pulls out there will not be nearly as many bombs close to Russia.
Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.
France and the UK’s nuclear arsenal is minuscule compared to the US stockpile.
You only need a few.
And a lot of the nukes at NATO bases are on loan from the US, so if the US pulls out there will not be nearly as many bombs close to Russia.
Both UK and France have nuclear armed subs, those are all that matter.
Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say even Putin doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in a bunker.
more than enough to cook russia. unfortunatley, europe will be wiped off the map too
The French strategy with nuclear bombs is not to wipe a country out of a map, but wiping out Moscow and Saint Petersburg (or New York and Washington DC for a USan example). The message is that you can kill us, but we will make sure that you are definitely crippled
Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.
Russian bureaucrats may think that about the rest of the population, but fortunately even they are not dumb enough to believe in having safety in those bunkers (time passes, things rot, materials decay).
So Russia really using nukes is for a situation where somebody making decisions believes there will be no retaliation.
Considering that throwing your friends and allies to the wolves has become a really common thing in modern world, just like plainly disregarding any kind of agreements or international laws or moral principles, I think such a situation is possible.
And with the cucked way France's foreign policy seems to work recently, and with the too realpolitik-style UK foreign policy, one might imagine a situation where both are not very active.
Also bureaucrats of various countries are class brothers. A bureaucrat, even a German or a French one, understands Putin and Xi better than somebody democratically elected. And Germany is traditionally (last 30 years I mean) friendly with Russia.
No conclusion.
Obviously the headline should have said "special military operation."
Surely putin will be dead by then?
One can hope
Will. You meant “will”.
Time to start working on my Swedish more...
If Moscow perceives NATO as weak, Russia could be ready to wage a "large-scale war" in Europe within five years, the Danish Defense Intelligence Service (DDIS) has said.
They didn't say Russia will, they said Russia could. I feel like this is fearmongering to a certain extent. How is the war in Ukraine going for Russia? They're winning, sure, but they're fighting hard for every kilometer and it's costing them. I really don't think any other country is worth as much as Ukraine is from Russia's point of view.
I mostly agree with your points, but even the article title very clearly says 'could'.
Russia had been encroaching on Ukrainian borders for years before launching their full invasion, and I'm not aware of similar actions against other European nations. It may be fearmongering, but unifying and strengthening NATO is in an important step to take to prevent Putin from going even further. He is heading towards his latter years now, and he seems to like the idea of restoring the 'glory' of the USSR and showing the West how big and stronk Russia is.
Additionally, in a larger-scale war with other, better armed European nations, Russia might not hold back on using their nukes this time round.
People die but remain missing = no costs They finance most of the equipment etc. themselves. Laws are already being changed in the direction of forced child labor and I wouldn't be surprised if Putin brings forced rape into play if necessary. So losses are manageable even with the junk equipment.
Ukraine is acting democratically... even the current convocation will do if age limits have to be constantly adjusted. Equipment either from abroad or financed from abroad. Losses are not bearable
Europe, America and all democracies in the world are sinking into unstable chaos due to Russia's propaganda machine. No more united action, etc. The majority of the population backing Russia is becoming an ever greater risk and the likelihood of civil war is increasing.
Etc.
So people who don't take this seriously, make fun of Russia, etc. have absolutely not grasped the seriousness of the situation. There are several ways of waging war... even without actively intervening in the events themselves.
the us has already started one in ukraine
This is a ridiculous headline. They could start a war today, also could have started a war any time in the past 5 years.
You're half right: it's ridiculous because they did start a major war in Europe in the past 5 years.
I didn't deny that, so I am entirely right. The point is that the headline is meaningless clickbait.