Democrats' Gen Z dream just died

Great, now I'm at the point of the post election grief cycle where I'm getting a bunch of books to try to figure out what happened. I remember this phase from 2016. Thanks for the recommendation for my list!

Also note that a lot of leftist YouTubers have either retired or moved to Nebula, a platform where their videos are harder to reach. Guess who didn't paywalled their videos! Your crappy gaming streamers creating reaction videos to crappy right-wing grifters whining about "masculinity in gaming" and how some video game women aren't fuckable enough for them.

I hear Hamas is modeling their insurgency after the vietnamese, so I'm reading Kill Anything That Moves about how the US prosecuted counter insurgency operation in vietnam, and why and how they won.

We should probably all start reading and prepping about how to keep safe under unsafe regimes.

Yup and electing Trump will definitely make that better. Good luck with that.

Don't get me wrong, you want to watch the world that's unfair to you burn? That's fine by me, I'll bring the chocolates and marshmallows, just don't want to hear the youngins complain about the heat.

This. I get people are angry but they need to step back and look at this for what to was. It was a bad Democrat campaign, from a party that is out of touch with voters. I don't blame Harris for this, I think she was a decent candidate given an impossible task.

The Dems did not contest Biden running despite obvious health concerns, then let him hold on til the bitter end dismissing all concerns, then had a coronation for Harris. Not very democratic and yet they made this election about democracy. And then they focused on abortion, as the main issue.

Yet voters concerns in the exit polls were clear - the number one issue was the economy. The dems failed to sell their message on the economy, they let Trump control the topic.

Why then vote for the guy who will kill any chance of having any sort of non post apocalyptic future ever again?

What age range are these parents and grandparents, I wonder? The really, really old people had the Great Depression. Boomers lived through things like stagflation and oil embargoes and went through multiple rightsizings/downsizings/offshoring/outsourcing, as well as NAFTA. Gen X started in the workforce after all this fun stuff began and got to experience the dot-com crash. Gen Y was just starting their careers when the 2008 financial crisis really brought things down.

Seriously, I don't want to play down things being tough for Gen Z - but it is not as if the economy only targets a certain age range, and it's not like other people have not seen their share of ups and downs that mostly seem to harm the lower and middle class...

This is the sort of attitude that gifts power to repulicans ever more.

Instead of blaming voters, blame the Democrat party. It needed to appeal to voters concerns and needs. It needs to ask why it failed to convince younger voters, and address what their priorities are.

The obvious answer at the moment is the Dems failed to campaign well on the economy. Harris defended the last 4 years as a success but for many lower income people of all ages it will not feel that way. Middle class voters who own their own homes were shielded more from inflation than renters whose housing costs due rent inflation sky rocketed as well as all other living costs - they were hit doubly hard.

The Dems decided to focus on women's reproductive issues and a fear of democratic loss, and hoped women would come out and vote balancing our other groups. This failed. It's clear Harris and the Democrats should have campaigned hard on economic change and offered a different vision to trump.

So don't blame voters. Blame the Democrats for this and many other failings in this election (no real contest at their primary, Biden hanging on til late with patronising dismissal of concerns over his health by the Dem leadership, and then a coronation of Harris who also inherited Bidens team rather than had time to build her own campaign).

Looking at the overall vote count the Rep vote seems largely similar to 2020, or slightly up, but the democratic vote has fallen significantly. This is largely due to the Democrats failure rather than due to Republicans success.

Typical boomer leadership. You lot shit the bed trying to take bribes and sell everyone out, then blame everyone but yourselves when you end up failing at literally everything, as if every Democrat owed you compliance with your horrific BS.

The democratic party lost ground in literally every single demographic thats measured, but you want to finger point as if one group is to blame. None of you should be in charge of anything.

When will you learn that the party was a coalition and that you dont have the power to go it alone and succeed, hrm? And that the right wingers are not your friends, and reaching across the aisle to people who want plainly evil outcomes is not some sort of virtue-- it just makes you weak and prone to lose. You have to make people want to come to you, not make deals to sell out your own to entice them onboard.

Honestly they'll probably provide massive subsidies to the oil companies to lower the price of gas while preserving the 2017 tax cuts and proposing more for rich people while Gen Z'ers will lose their college forgiveness but get a very temporary, very low tax cut.

When the initial disbelief wears off a little it becomes more clear that the democrats are not a very good alternative for people. If they were they should have won this by a landslide. Their current path seems like a dead end and they need some new thoughts.

Dems lost among the white college educated this cycle.

They'll still do some extreme mental gymnastics to blame Obama for it.

Yes. It's shit like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson and Youtube and Facebook and Tiktok and so much more...boomers had their parents yelling at them about the "boob tube", but the algorithmic skew is soooo much more insidious than even the worst television could have hoped to be.

It's rather common to point this out these days, but people talk about experiments where you spin up a new VM (use Proxmox or what have you, or maybe use a container even), and just click into Youtube and let it run its course....and they get pushed toward right wing content eventually.

I sure do wish that Gen Y, Gen Z, Gen-A and whatever is coming next are somehow smarter, immune to the usual emotional strings that are pulled, know how to spot logical fallacies better than anyone that came before, are more auto didactic, and actually know how to "do your own research" more than anyone that came before....but my cynical self knows that is just wishful thinking. Without a stellar liberal education, they'll be just as prone to the manipulation as any other set of people.

Everything has to be a meme. Lower taxes, healthcare, or racism isn't exciting. Couches, weird, eating pets and out of context outbursts get way more engagement. Mostly, because people have given up.

I'm sure they do. Shame they chose poorly.

People who supported a genocide shouldnt be lecturing anybody about anything after their poor campaign platform alienated the voters and lost the election.

Young Americans know to Never take advice or criticism from people you dont respect.