This reads like some weird sovcit shit about them mad about consequences for their actions. Yes cops suck but maybe don’t commit traffic violations.
Yes don't commit traffic violations but also don't shoot people for driving away.
To be fair in Europe and even in the USA people don’t get shot when driving away.
If you go on YouTube and look at sovereign citizen videos you will see that even in the USA they just chase you down and maybe ram your car. Rough but not being shot for driving away.
In Germany they would just follow you from a safe distance till you eventually stop then arrest you for fleeing and dangerous driving.
The last study I saw indicated that the majority of drivers in the United States are breaking the law every single day they drive. We also know that cops in many areas are incredibly racist about who they pull over. I know you didn't intend it, but the effective interpretation of your advice is to be lucky and white.
In theory, or with systemic changes, it would be possible to come up with more equal enforcement of the law. Safer enforcement of the law, where the cops are less likely to shoot you. But that's not what we face right now. For example, can you imagine if people had the size of their speeding ticket determined by their net worth, or their annual income? Can you imagine a future where if a cop pulls over minorities disproportionately, the cop get arrested?
Let me make it easier. Can you imagine a future where traffic stops are not allowed to be pretextual? Can you imagine a future where cops are ticketed every time they break traffic laws? When you can get to any of these futures, then I think you can reasonably bring up the point that you tried to bring up above. Until then, it just doesn't match reality.
It’s true, but in this context I’m explicitly talking about the kinds of people who do some deranged shit and then complain about consequences. Yes, a black person pulled over for going above the speed limit but still slower most everyone else would definitely be racist but anyone going 40-60% faster than the speedlimit is gunna get pulled over with reason. Yes, people break the law all the time and there aren’t enough cops to pull over everyone in the world(and because I have to explain everything I write: I am pro-defunding).
Anyway I get what you’re saying and considered it while writing my comment but I’m not going to start to writing several paragraphs of preface to explain my positions on the world in general to account for every possible interpretation of my comments.
Is Lemmy full of sovereign citizens now days? In all countries when you commit traffic violations you get a ticket.
Police do a lot wrong but enforcing driving safety is not one of those.
No but lemmy is full of folks who only see police as an agent of class war who's core action is to extract money from citizens while abusing their autonomy.
No gray! Only black and white!
Are the police less awful and corrupt in other countries? I mean there is a need for traffic enforcement but I question whether the police are the right tool for the job, at least in their current form.
I feel safe being stopped by German police.
I feel uneasy being stopped by American police.
I feel my sphincter contract like never before being stopped by Brazilian police.
In a civilized country you get a ticket and can pay it later. If you drive away before they're finished, they will follow because you might be up to sth. Illegal if you are running from the police. But you won't get shot at.
This. The comic is highlighting that not following police orders will get you killed no matter how petty the offence. Jump a $2 subway fare and everyone needs to duck because cops are now dumping their mags into a crowd of people.
In most places, they're not allowed to follow you for a driving infraction.
They have your license plate info and know who owns the vehicle. They'll mail you a citation.
Ok sovcit
