Walz says Vance was ‘gaslighting’ public about Trump’s record in debate
Walz says Vance was ‘gaslighting’ public about Trump’s record in debate
Democratic vice-presidential candidate calls opponent a ‘slick talker’ in first comments on Tuesday’s televised clash
Democratic vice-presidential candidate calls opponent a ‘slick talker’ in first comments on Tuesday’s televised clash
The day after the only vice-presidential debate this year, Democrat Tim Walz called his Republican challenger, JD Vance, a “slick talker” who was trying to rewrite history and gaslight people about Donald Trump’s record.
During a rally in York, Pennsylvania, Walz made his first public comments on the debate, which polls show was essentially a tie between the two vice-presidential candidates. The Minnesota governor was on a tour through the swing state on Wednesday.
Walz said the two men “had a civil but spirited debate” and that he didn’t underestimate Vance’s debate skills.
But, he added: “You can’t rewrite history and trying to mislead us about Donald Trump’s record. That’s gaslighting. That’s gaslighting, on the economy, reproductive freedom, housing, gun violence.”
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“With that damning non-answer, Senator Vance made it clear he will always make a different choice than Mike Pence made,” Walz said on Wednesday. “And as I said then, and I will say now, that should be absolutely disqualifying if you’re asking to be the vice-president.”
Not American, how was Pence?
Pence was Trump's last Vice President. His politics are as bad as any other republican, but he did the bare minimum of admitting to losing the last election and didn't take part in any of the election overthrowing funny business.
The VP has basically a ceremonial role to "certify" the election. When Trump lost he told Pence to not certify it. Pence looked at the law and decided that he had to certify it. Trump tried to get the Jan 6 crowd to kill Pence.
Pence rummaged in the law’s panty drawers looking for a loophole, and when he couldn’t find one, he called Dan Quayle to ask if there was any way at all he could violate his duty and support trump. Only after Quayle told him no multiple times did he finally, begrudgingly decide he had to certify it.
Let’s not give Pence more credit than he deserves.
Although even then (not debating what you wrote, just adding) he tried every possible legal avenue he could to comply with Orange Burger Lardball's request before capitulating and doing his job.
Pence certified the 2020 election, and his party built guillotines outside the capital in retribution. The kicker is the constitution provides the vice president no authority to reject it - it's a formal process and he was following the law. vance's response made clear he hasn't accepted the results, and likely wouldn't have certified. should it be disqualifying?
Ugh.
He was just lying. Gaslighting is a specific thing in abusive relationships, can we not broaden the definition to be "anytime anyone lies about stuff"?
Ehh, lying is a wide thing with different motivations. Gaslighting is a malicious type of lying that is designed to undermine the victims sense of reality, their sense of self. It's meant to increase dependency on the liar.
Its normally used to describe abusive romantic relationships, but it's not that specific. It can apply to jobs, families, and yes, government.
Vance is 100% gaslighting the American public. He's twisting what happened in a torturous way to make people afraid of trusting themselves and their lying eyes. Hes casting himself and Trump as the only people that "tell the truth" by lying. That's gaslighting.
Fuck off. You let him get away with it.
Go Dave the world our finest Lemmy savior... You and JD Vance can fuck off.