UN experts say ceasefire needed as Palestinians at 'grave risk of genocide'

At risk? They are actively experiencing a genocide

I think they mean "at risk of completing full genocide", sadly enough.
- "it's not technically a genocide, if it's still in progress"
  
  The world really hasn't paid attention to this particular conflict, until now.
UN protocols demands being careful when using certain terms when referring to a given event before a proper resolution or investigation has been carried out. If you follow the news, you will notice that they warn about obviously blatant war crimes as "might be a war crime". What's noticeable isn't that they're following their own protocols, but that they're bringing the war crimes to everyone's attention.
Gotta put the ultra orthodox settlers somewhere. Netanyahu thinks it's free land
- A land with no people, for a people with no land. Some assembly required

The Israeli mission to the U.N. in Geneva called the comments "deplorable and deeply concerning" and blamed Hamas for civilian deaths.

(Insert "why would they do this" meme here.)

Hamas is evil, yes, but that doesn't prevent the Israeli government from also being evil.

Are you supporting terrorism?

It's clear and all reasonable people agree, Israel must cease their ethnic cleansing.

You selected very good word in your description. I will steal these.
What ethnicity are you talking about?
- The Palestinian people

Risk?!? The Palestinian's have been murdered for 50+ yrs in a genocidal occupation. Silly UN.

I think Reuters very much know it's genocide. They put the conciliatory language in there to try to mollify people from attacking them. The important thing is a mainstream, reputable, mostly objective news source is socializing the fact that this is a genocide. That's progress.
I guess hornet set the bar to hight so the Israeli gov will only stop when the finally kill more then 6 000 000 innocent civilians.

No for real what haunts me is that they are the descendents of those who survived such massacres over the history only to do it themselves when they finally gained power. (They is Israel'gov)

Edit: Hitler not hornet, wtf sorry guys
- All humans are like that. Humans are inherently evil. The only way they do good is if they are forced to.

Everyday more people are dying, its a horror story.

as the global population increases over time, so do deaths. a small conflict like this may not even be statistically significant.
- Mark my words, history will remember this. We can practically watch it live with social media and so on. Wars are different now, since Ukraine. So it hits closer home.
- I dare you to go to a funeral home and say that to any mourners.

Does this make UN anti-semitic?

"Risk" of genocide? Risk?

They need to update their fucking AI model.

The burning house is at risk of catching fire. The dead man is at risk of heart failure. This headline is at risk of being full of shit.

Allegedly.
- The man being shot is currently allegedly bleeding to death.

US: seen

UK: noted.
"My apprentice has learned well from us"

-US
What would you like the US to do in this situation?
- Maybe don’t veto any attempt by the security council to impose a ceasefire.

Netanyahu is committing genocide in Gaza in much the same way that Milosovic did in Bosnia.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

GENEVA, Nov 2 (Reuters) - United Nations experts called on Thursday for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, saying time was running out for Palestinian people there who find themselves at "grave risk of genocide".

Nearly four weeks of Israeli bombardment against the Gaza Strip in retaliation for deadly attacks by Hamas gunmen in southern Israel on Oct. 7 have killed more than 9,000 people, made up of a majority of women and children, health authorities in the Hamas-run enclave say.

"We remain convinced that the Palestinian people are at grave risk of genocide," the group of experts, made up of seven U.N. special rapporteurs, said in a statement.

Speaking to Reuters after the experts' statement was issued, one of its signatories said the people of Gaza had been deprived of the "the most basic elements for living."

"We are using the term risk of genocide because the process that is (underway) is absolutely indiscriminate, affecting, in this case, more than 2 million people," said Pedro Arrojo Agudo, Special Rapporteur on the human rights to safe drinking water and sanitation.

"The situation in Gaza has reached a catastrophic tipping point," the U.N. experts said, adding that Gazans had been left with scarce water, medicine, fuel and essential supplies while facing health hazards.

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Can we start calling Israel a NAZI state?

Hold up their speedy. They’re not there yet. It took the Nazis over 5 years to get to that connotation. Let the Israelis cook. /s
- Well, Israel is doing this for many decades now
I'd rather call them facists. A core component of nazism is it's antisemitism and that seems a touch ridiculous to call israel despite how unfriendly zionosts can be to anti/non zionosts jewish folk.
- Aren't Arabs semitic people? If it's true it's true

Trudeau almost called for a ceasefire today, before remembering not to

Trudeau not calling for a ceasefire

From https://twitter.com/imraansiddiqi/status/1720673548224921690

Maybe a truce, a cessation of hostilities, armistice or day of tranquility?

What even is the purpose of a ceasefire? I don't even understand why the occupation government is against it, they could use it to their advantage. Agree to a ceasefire, give some time for people to desperately try to escape Gaza, allow some aid to the people remaining there, and when it's all over and people stop seeing you as the monsters you are, then you can continue your "war" and less people will care.

Afraid Hamas might use that time and aid? Well don't worry, your army is already getting wrecked on the ground, but it doesn't matter to you; you can continue wasting equipment, men, and oxygen for as long as you like, while Hamas cannot. Your army will take control of the area, and either get rid of everyone there or get kicked out a second time, either way, you have achieved your actual goals.

From an international perspective, calling for a ceasefire is reducing the window of forgiveness that Israel currently enjoys from the October 7th terrorist attack.

The more time that passes, the less tolerance global politicians have, for blatant all-out war crimes.

This isn't a secret, the Israeli government knows this, the Israeli military knows this, their doctrine documents acknowledge that they have a window of activity from any tragedy, international politicians know this, their allies know this, the Americans know this.

So every time an ally of theirs, calls for any delay, ceasefire combo humanitarian aid, they're trying to reduce that window, so there's less political damage control they have to conduct for their allies behavior.
escape where though? Egypt isnt going to let them in - Egypt has a lot of economic issues right now, they cant handle a bunch of refugees. maybe they could take a boat to Lebanon, Syria, or Turkey - Syria and Turkey are still struggling with the aftermath of that massive earthquake & are unlikely to be welcoming. Lebanon could accept them but there's not a lot going on there. where else then? Jordan maybe?
- Exactly, not many will even be able to escape if they're worried about that, but they can still claim that they let people escape.

More empty calls for ceasefire with not a single plea for Hamas to so much as release the hostages.

They have asked already.
- Ah yes, ask once nicely for hostage release, condemn Israel daily for not having a ceasefire.
First: I completely agree the hostages should be released unconditionally.

Second: the calls for a ceasefire are for humanitarian reasons, they are not there to support Hamas. The civilians are dying regardless, That's what the global outrageous about. Israeli civilians, Palestinian civilians.. I don't want any civilians to die.
They were active negotiations going before Israel went all out in Gaza, and there were 4 hostages released.

Didn't Netanyahu say that hostages are not their top priority? And by bombing all those tunnels while perfectly well know that all the hostages are kept there is kind of a signal that he cares very little for the wellbeing of his own people.

I think relatives of those held in captivity are already quite discontent and pissed off with your war cabinet, aren't they?
- That's 4 hostages out of 200. All 4 still have family being held hostage. They were released so you'd be able to say exactly that. Don't fall into Hamas's hands so readily.

Genuine question to all Palestinian sympathizers: don't you see how you encourage Hamas to bring even more kids to the active war zone with your comments and protests?

That’s what your question makes me think of.
Are you suggesting that

that Hamas is importing kids from outside of Gaza into Gaza, or

There's parts of Gaza that aren't an active war zone that Gazan children can be brought from ?
- No, that's your imagination at work. What they're saying is that Hamas makes sure there are at least 10 children in close vicinity to and leadership to use as shields.
It's more like "hey, that neighborhood full of families and shopkeepers has some gang members in it. Let's bomb it all." Hamas isn't "bringing in kids". They're resistance fighters who live in the same area, which is roughly the size of Los Angeles. And in the minds of Hamas, they're fighting for those children to have a right to that land in their future. To have a right to grow up free and unoppressed. Those children aren't "shields" and they weren't brought there. They were born there and are now being indiscriminately bombed as an excuse to make Hamas look bad. Where's Mossad? Where's Israeli special forces? Israel likes to talk a big game about their abilities, but in this conflict, "rain missiles from the sky and blame the victims for being in the way" seems to be their only tool.

You realize Israel even bombed evacuation routes, right? Told people "it's safe to leave this way" and then bombed the caravans leaving. You can't even leave without getting bombed, and you think they're just importing children in?

What are you smoking? I want some.
- In this video by channel 4, they briefly mentioned the story of a wounded boy, who got the permission to get through the Rafah crossing. His Palestinian father didn't let him go, because the father himself didn't get such permission. This is how they care about their children.
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Genuine question, do you have access to multiple sources of news and the internet. Active war?!? You don't seem to know much about the conflict and the root cause do you?
- Enlighten me
You're conflating Palestine, and Hamas. Which is a disservice to the civilians of the Palestine territories.

You're also making the assumption that the children are not currently in an active war zone, when the entire Gaza strip is a war zone.

Asking people to die quietly in a corner and not make too much of a fuss isn't feasible, and it's unfair to their humanity.
- South of Gaza is slightly safer than North. The people who stayed in the North either made a conscious choice to protect Hamas with their bodies, or were forced to stay.
  
  I don't ask people to die quietly, I think people must demand a humanitarian corridor to Egypt or another safe place.
Don't you see how your knee jerk defense of anything Israel does as encouraging them to do war crimes?

I swear, you lot would defend nukes if there was a 50/50 shot of getting a child of a hamas member.
Genuine question: do you actually think that anything that happens in this obscure part of the internet has any repercussion whatsoever in the real world?
- Whatever happens in any part of the internet involves people, and people are part of the real world. So yes, it does influence the real world.