What if Reddit reverts it's changes?

Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn't the first break. Big social is having problems, it's the natural course of things.

For me, they'd have to

1. Replace /u/spez
2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

Of course, there will be people who just don't care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don't care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don't moderate any subreddits, and don't follow the Internet news.

I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

I wouldn't care. The irreversable damage is done.

Reddit's handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO's AMA pretty much ignored all API change criticism (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo's developer threatening them.... They've shown their real colours.

I don't want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else now. I used Reddit for over a decade and they've eradicated my trust in a few days. Even if they reverse the decision, it'd be a PR move to temporarily save their sinking reputation. They clearly don't care about moderators, users or anyone who actually makes Resdit the place it is (whilst begrudgenly adding bare minimum app exceptions for blind users becsuse they legally have to).

Its a shame, but at the same time I'm excited to see where things go from here. Reddit's always had a bit of a quality control problem due to sheer size. Maybe the mass exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

I'm actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that'd be better, actually.

I already like the community here more

Personally, I don't see myself going back. I'll just chill with my new community here.

I don't intend to go back nearly as much as before, even if the changes are reverted (unlikely, imo). A lot of the aspects of Reddit that I didn't like - but tolerated - are generally not found here, at least so far. While Lemmy still leaves things to be desired, it just feels better to engage with.

However, I may still add " reddit" to the end of a search query to avoid all the bloat articles that crop up in a search. There's still a wealth of useful information on Reddit from all those years for even the most niche questions / topics.

What kept me at reddit was the content, not the company. If the content moves here, then this is where I'll stay. If most content remains at Reddit, which would be unfortunate. Then I'd probably try to juggle both, depending on how my time goes here.

So far, it's been rather positive. I've got most of my daily dose of community conversation, but I'm missing that video streak at the moment.

Lemmy reminds me of early Reddit and I like that. The mask is all the way off now. Reddit was pretty fun 10+ years ago but that time has come and gone.

The last time reddit pulled some shit, I found tildes and expanded the sites I visited regularly/ semi-regularly (and reducing how much time I spent on reddit). Reddit reverting the latest changes will only minimize the damage on my end, as I'll be spending time here that I could otherwise be spending over there.

This stunt reduced the already diminished trust I have for reddit. Having migrated to reddit due to the digg v4 fiasco, over the years, reddit's decisions have been like digg v4 in slow motion. Each fuckup just causes me to further reduce the amount of time I spend using the site. One of these days, they'll cross too many of my red lines, and reddit will become completely useless to me.

I probably won't permanently boycott them if they revert, but won't leave here either.

Reddit showed their hand and I'm just done with all these corpos. Reddit is my last hold out and I'm slowly leaving that too. I'm moving to the decentralized FOSS future that I believe in where we the people have the power.

It's not really about the API and third party apps anymore. Arguably never has been. This is really about the IPO, and the clear signal that Reddit has every intention of making your experience worse if that means they can squeeze more $$$ out of you.

I've fully committed to replacing reddit in my life, I'm trying to be active here and pointing people to Lemmy when I can. Reddit has made it clear they dont care about users. they get content for free, moderation for free, etc. They pissed on their base and deserve a mass exodus. I just hope people follow through.

It wouldn't matter at all, because it's just a matter of time before they implement such features and don't back down.

They'll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn't enormous if they go this route.

Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don't go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say "oopsie." It don't work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

I’ll be staying no matter if Reddit reverses their decision. The communities I’d like to follow might be smaller here, but I’m sure they will grow.

I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

I'll stay on Lemmy, I came here a week ago and since then I put effort into being involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore.

You know what? It's working :D

At this point I don't care anymore about what they do, I wasn't very satisfied of reddit lately, save for a handful of really nice communities, I'm not even angry about it anymore, that says a lot IMO.

They've already posted that they're going to "double down" on ads on their platform and they are not going to back down on the API rules: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

No. I'm done. The admins had their chance to address the developers and community concerns respectfully. They instead chose to insult people, make false accusations and demonstrated a complete lack of humility and respect for the community that made their website have any value at all.

Not that I expect them to reverse course on anything, but I won't be coming back under any circumstances.

Reddit is absolutely, 100% certainly not going to step back on these change. They've made up their mind long ago.

But just for the hypothetical: I think they lost a LOT of trust with the two most essential parts of the community - users and mods. Also the company (or rather, its CEO) may have taken significant image damage due to the "AMA" spez did.

I think business will go on as usual, but the decline will be more and more noticable over time. It will go the way of Digg. Unless of course reddit decides to hire moderation themselves. But we all know they probably wont want do do that. The course seems set to selling the data they have already accumulated.

I prefer encouraging small communities grow to become as successful as corpo giants. It's not only about Reddit, it's about avoiding single points of failure.

I don't think I'll go back except for niche content/communities I don't expect to see here for a while.

I'm seeing how things play out.

I certainly like Lemmy and I could very well use both for a while. I'm mostly worried my favorite subs (especially my local City sub) won't migrate or be an active enough group here. Time will tell. I want to follow the community, not the platform.

I don't trust Reddit any more. I made a comment elsewhere about why.

I'd probably return, at least for some things. Lemmy's not a massive community yet, and I did like some parts of Reddit. That said, I'd stay on Lemmy, post everything I put on Reddit here as well and be ready to jump ship again at a moment's notice.

I haven’t been a daily Reddit user for a long time, if Apollo stayed active and useable I’d keep it loaded on my phone but I’m into the vibe on lemmy and want to be part of it.

For me at this point I think Steve Huffman would need to step down along with a step back of their changes. I can't trust the platform given his track record.

I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”

They have already tipped their hand and shown that money is what they are actively after. My trust is gone. If they were to revert changes at this point, I would simply read that as "We have delayed our plan until we come up with something else."

I would probably stay here. I do like exploring new things and the fact that it is smaller would likely make me lurk less.

use both lemmy and reddit

I plan on sticking to lemmy and only using reddit on the pc for specific things that I can't find here for the time being

Nothing could convince me to go back, we need decentralization.

I fully support all the reasons for ditching Reddit altogether, but if I can’t use Apollo, I’ll only ever use it on desktop, and even then just to look stuff up via Google.

Installed Mlem and have committed to making this place a good one.

Lemmy. I actually kinda prefer this to reddit, content feels much more "local" and since I can't spend hours scrolling through it, it doesn't make me a mindless soul just being fed infornation. Also I already deleted my reddit account lol.

Yeah, I'd go back. I notice the bot content has gotten bad on Reddit, but the communities I follow are still okay.

I've overwritten and deleted all my comments and posts and nuked my account. This is my new home.

I'm not going back, epescially since Apollo will be shutting down. I'm looking forward to what the dev can do with the Mlem iOS app, and I'm very interested in the community that is being built here.

Lemmy is too good to leave. I don't think I'm alone either. I was wanting an alternative for a while.

I honestly think most people would go back just out of habit. Even if they don’t go back, once things calm down. I’d absolutely love people to move to fedi, but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen.

I would stay on both. Keep reddit just for the more specific subreddits I like that aren't big here.

I’ll stay here, the decentralized concept makes so much more sense for this kind of application

I think I'm on Lemmy for the long haul - I like the fediverse decentralisation. The hardest part of Reddit to abandon will be the search results on Google, but perhaps we'll see something similar with Lemmy in a few years if it picks up steam.

I'll use both then. reddit is still unparalleled for support, simply because of its sheer size

They've made it clear they won't. And since most subs are only going dark for a measly 48 hours they have no incentive to. It's literally like that "Oh no, anyway..." meme.

And think of it this way: even if you they revert the changes (or you just decide to please /u/spez and only use the official app) do you think the platform will continue to get better or worse? He's shown his hand it's nothing good for the mods or the users.

I prefer the smaller crowd here. Reddit just feels like a mall these days. Between all the bullshit, tencent, ads and assholes, I’m not looking back.

I prefer the smaller crowd here. Reddit just feels like a mall these days. Between all the bullshit, tencent, ads and assholes, I’m not looking back.

I'd stay on Reddit as long as there was content on Reddit ... But I would keep posting and commenting on Lemmy. I'd rather see the fediverse grow.

Stay! And participate less in their site, so they note the change.

What if your SO stops beating you?

Been on reddit since 2010 and over the years I've gotten less and less interested and the only subs I still had interest in were the niche fashion communities.

I'm gonna be the change I want to see and created the lemmy community for one of my favorite brands (Supreme) and over time other ones will fill out the space. I'm also gonna join a patreon discord for better fashion discussion than the reddit subs anyway and was something I'd been wanting to do anyway before the recent events.

With those as a replacement I should be fine. I'm also way more excited about investing into an exciting new community with lemmy that reminds me of the early reddit days. Reddit will only continue to get worse as it gets more corporate and terrible in the same way Facebook and other platforms went downhill over the years. Lemmy is on the come up

Yes but. The blackout is a boycott. Boycotts should always be paired with actionable, reasonable steps that the target can take. If everyone refuses to come back under any circumstances, what point was this boycott anyway? That said, I'm still staying on Lemmy, as I was before Reddit's blowup.

I've wanted to leave since the old shitredditsays days (had the handle /u/outwrangle ), but back then there weren't any good alternatives (SA cost actual money and Tumblr went to shit after it was acquired by Yahoo) so I stayed on leddit out of a lack of alternatives.

The blackout is just the brd finally coming to free us from the hellsite. I will never return.

It'd be a mix of both for me. I like what I'm seeing on lemmy, but reddit is enrimous and users won't flock here in the same numbers if reddit does an about face.

Reddit is doing a tumblr so I don't think is gonna recover that easy. Reddit is not gonna allow NSFW subs to be seen outside of the official app, who the hell watches porn from the official app? So many people is gonna drop it.

I think is still gonna survive IF subs like askreddit, amitheasshole or entitledparents are still up and have a lot of people posting, because they so many YT channels read from those (and I hear them daily as podcasts) but if the mayor subs go dark or shutdown is not gonna affect reddit only, but also so many people who works reading those.

I’ve been looking for an alternative for a while now, and am quite sure I’ve found it.

I would half move back. There are a lot of niche subs that I can't find here, like r/NonCredibleDiplomacy. But I would still use Lemmy, it is more homey.

Personally I doubt I'll delete my account on Reddit. But as someone who will cling to old.reddit.com and adguard to the bitter end, I'll happily let my account gather dust unless there's a support question or something for a community that hasn't taken off here.

Keeping Reddit as a backup will at least being me some productivity back. I'm supposed to be a writer, I would probably down more times actually doing that anyway.

And then what? They'll magically stop having to make money for their investors?

Reddit isn't getting enshittified for shits and giggles. They're being forced to make money. That requires enshittification.

It'd be too late. I nuked my account, overwrote my comments, and uninstalled my apps early this morning. I don't intend to return.

Honestly, I'll probably keep using it. I like the scale of the community and the resulting coverage of subject matter, and without something major pushing people away that's going to be on Reddit.

Have any other social media sites backed down? IIRC Tumblr, Digg and of course Twitter just went straight off the cliff.

everyone is saying "i'm never going back", but that's just jingoism.

I participated in the voat migration ~6 years ago. Realistically, even if reddit remains stubborn, I'm estimating that half the folks who migrated will quietly move back over the next month.

I'm definitely going to try and use lemmy more, and i may or may not lurk on reddit if they continue to be stubborn. If they revert their changes, I'll probably try to use both.

People would go back.

Base on my couple hours of experience, nope, I don't need that huge amount of unrelated content that I am not interested in. It does take sometime to customize and filter lemmy but it would be the same like early reddit anyway, won't take long to tune it to what you like.

I prefer the smaller crowd here. Reddit just feels like a mall these days. Between all the bullshit, tencent, ads and assholes, I’m not looking back.

If they allow me to browse porn on a 3rd party app I'd probably use it exclusively for that. I'm incredibly doubtful it will happen since on top of the API fee they also stated the API would not process NSFW requests