Putin unlikely to accept 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine, Reuters reports
Putin unlikely to accept 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine, Reuters reports
Trump: Why would Ukraine do this?
Good thing they tried to make a fool of Zelenskyy, that really showed Russia /s
From the CBS article on this:
"If Putin decides not to support the push for a temporary ceasefire, it will dramatically alter the optics of the war and position Russia as the main obstacle to peace," Peter Dickinson from the Atlantic Council's UkraineAlert service, said in analysis Tuesday.
Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the 'main obstacle to peace'? I don't even think that Russian bots believe they're not the aggressor. What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?
Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?
MAGA idiots.
Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?
No one, I really hope. But either way this was a good move from Ukraine to throw the ball to the russians as now the orange guy is thrown in front of the bus with his "i'll end this war in a day" statement and global pressure is on Russia.
What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?
Very good question. Let me know too if you find the answer.
I am sure there are true believers out there but I mean among the general population of other countries, especially reporters. I put about as much stock in interviews with average Russians as I do the North Korean equivalent. There's enough social pressure to conform that even those who disagree with the narrative are unlikely to say so on camera.
Don't forget that official Russian media (like any other) is heavily censored and influenced by the government's interests, so they won't show people who don't think that way on purpose. Plus those who disagree might just outright tell reporters to go fuck themselves, instead of telling them their honest opinion, which would obviously not go live.
As for those brainwashd, in my experience, - most of them actually think very low of Ukraine and think that attacking it was absolutely, positively a good thing.
But the problem of grouping people appears again...
Tankies
Trump finding out he has few cards on the table
Oh those gamers with their games. Trump playing cards, Rubio plays with a ball, Putin is serious as a brick and Ukrainians are dying.
How fucking fun it all is.
And Vance on his soapbox, "We can solve this with diplomacy."
Zelensky somehow face palms with just a facial expression.
Well Trump did give all his major cards away before the negotiations even started with Putin. 💁🏻
The art of the deal
I wonder if he's tried saying 'thank you' to Putin?
Trump has played one side of Kelogg's plan, cut off aid to Ukraine if they dont move toward peace. Now lets see if he follows though with the other side of it and dramatically ramp up aid to Ukraine if Russia dont move towards peace.
I hope he does but I'm not holding my breath.
Wasn't he supposed to sanction russia even more for refusing peace?
It is my understanding the US aid is restored after the Ukraine capitulation to the support blackmail.
Of course, he isn't likely - he loved it, when it was uncertainty and confusion for Ukraine, because what he wants out of a deal is a way to position Russia to eventually still eliminate an independent Ukraine altogether. Now that it's flip-flopping again, and the uncertainty produced by the administration in the US isn't completely in his favour any more, there's no reason for them to entertain it at all.
What was even the point of putting pressure on Ukraine? They have always been cooperating. Russia's the one whose word is mud.
Putin had told Trump that he wants peace and Ukraine does not. Putin and Trump are friends, so Trump knew that what Putin is saying must be true.
And now he's shocked to find out that Putin actually is able to lie. (As he always does, but Trump's understanding is Trump's understanding...)
We'll see how Trump will explain this as Zelenskyj's fault anyway...
If you start out trusting Russia/Putin isn't lying you're going to have a bad time.
Optics
Maybe it was to help with the push going on in Kursk right now. With loss of intel, maybe that played a role in Ukraine becoming encircled and risk losing it?
I thought Trump was gonna end this war right away 🤨
24 hours. But he was talking about 24hours from the perspective of Pluto, our cherished 9th planet.
Shhhhhh, the big pants boys are talking. Donnie can go sit at the kids table while big daddy putin makes his decisions for him.
Zelensky didn't say thank you, didn't you hear?
Ceasefire for Putin means rearranging troops to start the next attacks...
Apparently they bothered to write a whole article even though "Duh" would have been sufficient.
Fucking duh
putin hates peace.
Who would have thought?