The US under Trump cannot be misunderstood: They are a threat to Canadian sovereignty.
The US under Trump cannot be misunderstood: They are a threat to Canadian sovereignty.
At the first Trump cabinet meeting, he stated his intentions clearly. He restated blatant lies and disinformation, and he won't really be questioned on it from the press or from any US politicians. The US is the enemy of Canada and should be understood as such. Take heed of his treatment of Ukraine - when he noted that they would lose the war without US help - and consider what he will propose when he uses the same argument on us. He makes it very clear in the video.
And very carefully consider which of our political leaders will stand up to Trump when he makes the argument that we need American military in our country to protect us.
Heck they're a threat to US sovereignty
So step up the game already, Canada. Become a threat to US Sovereignty. Make a real offer for the blue states to join and be willing to protect them with military force when Trump retaliates. Enact an American refugee program to bring the best and the brightest across your borders. Get Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker and Walz to the table and start making real deals.
Because as a Californian, I'd rather be a Canadian on the side of democracy and justice than an American on the side of fascism.
California's economy is about double the size of Canada's. You probably should be considering just being your own country rather than being part of Canada. An EU style partnership between Canada and the parts of the US that secede would make a lot of of sense in that scenario.
But that's a long way off.
We don't want to annex part of the US. We don't want to import more conservative voters from the US. We just want to be left alone and our responses are going to be symmetrical in keeping with that unfortunately.
I live in Illinois please make me Canadian I'll grow weed for you guys we have really good soil
You'd need part of your military to turn on him which likely won't happen. Our military isn't even remotely capable of standing up to yours.
Problem is, CA and TX are both littered with bases and a shitload of stuff that goes boom, similar with other red and blue states. Seceding means war between states that have the economy and war fighting capability to beat whole countries on their own, so our only hope would be officers following their oath to enemies foreign AND domestic
The US is now a threat to the entire world.
Now? I think it has become a bigger threat for sure, but the US has been a straight up villain to the world before this.
I'm seriously mentally preparing for an armed conflict.
It's already started, It just isn't traditional war. It will be the same as how they took the states... through disinfo and pushing their stooges into power. (Pierre Polievere etc)
We are fighting a war against bullshit.
Yeah look up the Mar A Lago Accord: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/2025/02/25/what-a-mar-a-lago-accord-would-mean-for-the-us-dollar/
Trump wants to annex us in any way he can - economic annexation is easiest. These are serious discussions in the White House, and we need to take them seriously too.
And I can guaran-fucking-tee that Poilievre will drive straight into a US economic annexation, such as described at the link above. He will go along as the US drives us into deeper economic subjugation and dependence.
We are Ukraine in 2013 right now.
Yeah, my wife and I reached the same acceptance. We spent the last month or so thinking we were overthinking it all. Now we've realized that it may happen, and we're resolved to stay and do what we can. The kids will go overseas with their grandparents. Between all of them they speak three languages, they'll be fine. We accept that we're likely to be killed but we have to do it for our kids. It's a strange journey but now we can get on with regular life, knowing we have a plan. It took her a bit more time but we both got there eventually.
We're also resolved to protest and push back. I've never really gone to a protest but this is existential.
If there's someone in your life that is on the wrong side of this, and they are worth the effort, come to them carefully and listen. Don't just attack them, as they will dig in their heels. Instead, make sure to ask them why THEY think you disagree with them, and why THEY think you believe what you do. Take the time to talk to them. Don't get mired in policy. And think carefully about how you will answer the above questions when they turn it around on you.
If they are strangers and you don't want to spend the effort, then don't waste your time. Give them no benefit of the doubt, nor any assumption of good faith. They will surely not extend those to you. Ignore them. The sooner you realize they are unfortunately your enemy, the easier it will be.
I'm getting my PAL this month after never being interested in firearms before. And at least if the conservatives do win here, we'll probably be allowed to purchase automatic weapons again.
Actually 10 of us at work are doing the firearms course together and we are autistic sysadmins lol
automatic weapons
Semi-automatic. Not trying to be a dick and I love that Canadians are seeing the threat and arming up. Just want to help with the terminology. Enjoy shooting!
There are still dipshits saying "it's just hot air" gaslighting me on a daily basis. But yes we are the next Ukraine right now, it's a mirror image. But instead of Russia's dog shit economy, horde of orcs, and soviet weapons, it's the United Fucking States. We are completely fucked if we don't become pro active. In my opinion an American civil war is the only hope for our survival. And we should be intervening. A large group of armed Canadians should be going into the US when their civil war starts and backing up the real Americans and helping them fight against the fascist traitors. If we just sit here with our thumbs up our asses then Trump has a chance to solidify his power, and then we have no choice but to get fucked.
Just look at one of the commenters on this very post. I truly hope he's an American, for his sake, because if he's a Canadian yearning for hostilities I can guarantee he and his ilk will be the first up against the wall. Metaphorically... of course.
There are quite a few pro annexation Canadian traitors and fascists. And we ought to do something about them. I know of a few prominent ones in my own city. I am wondering when the right time is to take action.
Right path for Canada is certainly to encourage State secession, offering them provincehood if they wish. But it is also to immediately disassociate with US empire and its enemies list. We need alternate foreign investment and trade partners inclusive of the US's enemies list. Nuclear protection from North Korea if they are the only ones with balls that are cheap enough to buy protection from.
Instead, our negotiators are just begging to enslave us into supporting US war on China.
I don't think state secession is the goal imo. I think the solution here is to finish off what was started with the first american civil war, but this time don't let any of the confederate traitors survive to breed a new generation of racist pieces of fucking human garbage. Drive every single magat into the ocean for good. Then the survivors can pick up the pieces of their own country and start the rebuilding process.
Trump can piss right the F off! They could not win a war against us.
- All our measurements are in metric they would just be lost.
- We will cut off their power and the average US citizen will get mad because we give them so much electricity, at least the northern states.
- We will cut off the oil tap and their military vehicles will not be able to run. At least until they reformat their refiners for their oil, leading to more power outs.
- Their economy will just crash because of power outages. Leading to the people who would retrofit the refiners demanding for more money, that the oil companies do not have on hand.
- The people will rise up in the US because of the massive and very fast inflation, Trump will be remembered as the president who destroyed the US in a mater of a few months of taking office.
I do not want to say go a head and try but the US loses either way, I also understand that there are military people way smarter than me who have battle plans drawn up. I did not know that these plans are kept up to date as well.
All our measurements are in metric they would just be lost.
is funny, but the military at least all use metric.
People will rise up, that is true. But if Trump solidifies his power, and it wont take much longer, he can easily work around all of the other leverage we have. He is more than happy to trade with Russia, NK, India, Iran, etc. to displace anything Canadians import. They will have plenty of fuel for their vehicles.
Take away potash as that kills corn farmers. Corn is the base of a lot of industrial plants owned by the ruling class.
And also medical isotopes. Those old politicians will find it difficult to see their doctors without scans and X-rays. Shame how many heart attacks and strokes there will be.
Potash does so much more then fertilize Corn, it fertilizes everything! If the farmers cannot fertilize their feilds the food products will suffer, more so than it did this year with Trumps big imminent round up. I read somewhere that it takes one year of not fertilizing a feild properly to mess it up, for something like 5 years I could be totally wrong on that memory but I do know not fertilizing properly really screws things up. Farmers that also raise cattle maybe able to make it more than two years but they will be suffering fast.
That is a long term war plan, what I laid out would happen within weeks, if not days.
Trump reviving "Fifty-four forty or fight!" any day now.
Definitely the wrong response is to triple down on Ukraine, including throwing out the idea of sending soldiers.
Normalize relations with reset of world. US only protects Canada from Russia because Canada lets the US tell us who our enemies are. If Russia is not our chosen/fabricated enemy, then NORAD is Canada protecting the US.
The lies that Canada support for US consumers/industry is a cost to the US, or that it is responsible for fentanyl, should result in more public anger about liars, and breaking off relations with liars, instead of correcting facts as if that will make a difference.
Export tariffs on energy to make Canadian energy after tariffs the same price as WTI, or US electricity alternatives is crucial, even if auto tariffs are not reciprocated. FFS, make sure Canada's next harvest is sold to China or elsewhere undercutting US agriculture. The most disgusting reaction in all of this is no talks with China on anything.
Ukraine is probably our strongest possible ally if they can survive this war. All we need to do (Canada and the Europeans) is give them ammo to beat back Putin, his country is about to implode. Russia is desperate for the war to end as soon as possible. We should support them like our lives depended on it, because they will come to our aid.
But first work on your psychopathy and pathology.
Care to expand on this?
Edit: Nvm I see your post history. You can fuck right off, you treasonous Yank sympathizer. Best you get out before you're put out.
On a related topic, Nazi lives don't matter.
