We were almost done with the Harambe timeline. But some dumbasses in NY had to kidnap and kill an internet famous squirrel named P'Nut.....Now we're an openly fascist country.
You shouldn't have messed with the squirrels Morty!
Could you also fix the 2000 election so the winner would have won?
The winner was the guy who could successfully exert power over the judiciary, while the loser was the guy without a committed vanguard ready to storm an election counting office to guarantee victory.
Strange use of "win" to describe a situation where everyone loses.
Yes; it would be great to have fixed this
dicks out
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sets machine to Queens, New York, June 14, 1946
"Oh...no reason."
Screw Harambe, I want to see the alternate timeline where Hannibal and Carthage won.
But if we save Harambe, no one would have died for us
We didn't deserve such
Dicks out!
AtteeeeeenTION
Killing Hitler right now would be a mistake. No nuclear arms race means no nuclear power, no cold war (which was better than a hot war), and far less advancements (kiss computers bye bye!).
The idea that we need war for progress is dumb.
It is, but that particular war certainly accelerated the advancement of computers and nuclear energy. Turing and his team were so motivated because what they did helped save lives. I'm a software engineer and what I do... helps mostly small and medium sized manufacturing companies be more efficient. Yeah I'm not gonna be pulling 20 hour days here.
Oppenheimer was Jewish. Hitler was exterminating Jews. I think you can see why he and many of the other people with Jewish backgrounds were so eager to work on the Manhattan project.
I feel like no Hitler would potentially change so many things that it'd be hard to make a concrete prediction on what the world would look like today.
Honestly I think that what happened during WW2 set us up for about 80 years of relative peace and social progress. If you were lucky enough to live in a wealthy country at least.
Now that the people who learned those lessons are gone, we are back to having to relearn them. It's back to authoritarianism, fighting over borders and going after marginalized groups.
I think if it wasn't him, it likely would have been someone else. It's not a failure of the person but a failure of our societal values that allows something like that to happen at a major scale.
The only thing that would be sure is that no one born in this timeline after he was killed in the altered timeline would exist.
I feel that it's a bit of a false dichotomy to say that if WW2 didn't happen then those things also wouldn't happen. There's nothing inherent about WW2 that had to happen for those advancements - they may have just been achieved faster due to the war.
I think you may be thinking about economics and progress at that time like you would at this time. Remember that at that time most innovations came from government funding.
During WW2 there was plenty of money spend on funding innovation and research. If a lab has the money to hire more researchers and help then they get to the invention faster. I don't disagree that some advancements would have happened, I just think we would be where we are now. We would be about 10 years back. The innovation was due to the funding. This pushed us farther than we would have at that time because there was a lot of incentive for more/better ways to win the war. In peace time there is less reason to fund as much research.
Private company's now have the money for R&D and can make the innovations because they are driven by profit. (lets push that discussion off, we need less ass hat people in charge) Back then they did not.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/scientific-and-technological-advances-world-war-ii
I find it super interesting that the development of the microwave is a direct result of radar technology. I am not comparing it to the computer or cell phone but its is a common household item that is a direct result from wartime developments.
Also ENIAC was the first general purposes computer that could do thousands of calculations in a second. This was only developed due to a desire to get an edge in the war. It didn't get completed as soon as hoped so it was used for other reasons but it was still a huge advancement due to the war. It eventually was used for calculations on feasibility of an H-bomb and then later used to calculate artillery firing tables.
You're being downvoted, yet evidence is outer clear that a great many technology advancements have directly derived from conflict pressures. We'd get the same effect if it weren't for fucking small-government, low tax shit-for-brains, but we don't. When vast, collective resources are poured into a field, it generates a lot of waste but also a lot of progress. Progress isn't impossible without war, but historically we see far more advancement during times of war than during times of peace.
If we ever cure cancer, it'll be because we had a war and, during the development of some weapon, the huge concentration of resources resulted in discoveries that someone noticed - as a side effect - happened to cure cancer. It'll never happen without a war because there's no private sector motivation to cure cancer: there's too much money and industry invested in treating cancer.
You're essentially right.
Ahh, just like the old Reddit. Thanks!
no computer, no reddit, no tiktok, no excel, no powerpoint, no motivational linkedin accounts ans the best part for me, living a lot less
Cell phones will never come about because I went back in time and killed a mass murder.
-written from your cellphone
You could reinvent computers while you are there
Real solution is sending a nuke through time to kill Hitler at the start of the war.
We woul get another authotarian even if Hitler wasn't around
This is the premise for the Red Alert series in Command and Conquer - Stalin becomes the aggressor when Hitler was wiped
Joestar's dad?
