Do we know why lemmy.world doesn't federate with us?
Do we know why lemmy.world doesn't federate with us?
Kind of falls under the 'Too Afraid to Ask' category, I guess, but I've been curious about this for a while. Did something actually happen at some point, or was this just a procedural thing that wasn't ever followed up on?
It's mildly annoying given how large they are.
Edit: It's possible that this isn't a federation problem at all (as discussion is bringing to light) but something else entirely. Regardless, though, something is going on.
It's also possible that the site I link below is out of date, so maybe don't take that as gospel. I bookmarked it a year ago and just hit it up to check on this a few minutes before posting, so I haven't been keeping up with it.
Doing a little more digging in light of the above, it's possible this is related to this issue, and there's just an extremely long delay before we get content from lemmy.world. Weirdly, though, it doesn't seem to be the case with other instances - maybe because of their size? Either way, looking at the same posts on our instance and 3 or 4 others, we seem to be the only ones not getting the replies. So something's fucked, maybe.
If you're on lemmy.world and happen to see this, drop a reply in here, maybe - I'd be curious to see how long it takes for us to see it (or if we can at all).
Are you sure it doesn't? Because otherwise I'm not sure how I'm seeing this.
For the sake of discussion, it seems that it does, but with a huge delay we don't see from other instances. This reply just became visible to us within the last 15 minutes.
I typically browse New, so if this is typical, that explains things - I don't usually read posts more than 2-3 hours after they get posted unless I'm following it for replies specifically. I've been noticing that I'll see a post with, say, 10 replies, but if I go look at the same post on another instance, it'll have 30-40+, with most of the disparity being from lemmy.world, so I (incorrectly) assumed it was a federation issue, when it seems it's not. Sure would be nice to figure this out, though.
Same
https://lemmy.world/post/19668430 Looks like it does? At least, from Pawb to them.
They're big though, so it can take a while for things to get processed.
We federate with them, but they don't federate with us. They haven't in over a year.
Must do as I can see the post. Maybe there's some kind of technical issue that causes the delay. Maybe reach out to the admins of . world?
I'm on lemmy world and it shows for me. Although it says you posted this seven hours ago, and seven hours ago is when I went to bed. So not sure exactly when the post stored up for me on my feed.
I see plenty on my feed from .world, and checking my profile, I've gotten replies from .world users as of at least two weeks ago, which implies that they can see posts made by accounts hosted here (else how would someone there see my comment to reply to it), unless something happened relatively recently.
I'm assuming this is related to the performance issues that've been being posted about on Telegram over the past hour. Digging deeper, I'm seeing their replies, too, but they're massively delayed. (The .world reply on this thread still isn't visible, for instance.) Will see if the situation improves when the server issue is sorted.
This seems to be an unknown thing, because (by viewing this post on lemmy.world) I can see a reply from L.W. Go to the post on our instance, and you'll see what I mean.
If you check here, you can see who's blocking us currently.
Lemmy.world is one of a small handful of instances that explicitly don't federate with us, and we're one of 67 that lemmy.world blocks.
There's basically two furry instances (us and yiffit), and they aren't blocking yiffit, so it's not because furries, and we federate with them, so it wasn't a retaliatory measure, so I really don't know.
Edit: It's mildly annoying because due to the size of lemmy.world, it means we're not seeing a large percentage of replies in many popular communities. I guess the CTA here is, if there wasn't a reason for this, can we follow up with them and see what gives? Maybe it was a mistake at some point (or they thought we're something we're not, I don't know), and it could be fixed?
https://lemmy.world/instances The current list of federated instances shows us as still federated. The site you linked says the block was from a year ago, and I seem to recall there was a temporary block in place then for technical reasons.
Just to rule it out: You don't have the instance blocked in your personal blocklist, do you?
Yeah what? I could understand defederating from Yiffit; it's literally intended for yiff. But Pawb? Everything I see here is basically just wholesome side of the furry community.
It could just be those in charge of that don't even know about Yiffit but they do know about Pawb because it's bigger? I mean I literally never see anything or anyone from Yiffit other than myself, unless I switch to Local view to only see stuff from here. But Pawb comes up about as much as any other instance.
Yiffit has registrations disabled, so furries kind of get funneled over here by default.
@KoboldCoterie it doesn't show often in the federated timeline, but I can see lemmy.world groups from pawn.social
Also seeing this from Lemmy world
Took 2+ hours for this reply to show up to us, for the record.
Really a question for the lemmy.world admins. @[email protected] any ideas here? Hate to see someone be de-federated as a bug or oversight.
As we worked out in the comments, it's not actually a federation issue, it's a synchronization time issue... there's a ~5 hour delay before we see posts from lemmy.world users (only l.w, as far as I can tell - doesn't apply to other instances.) Might be because of l.w's size, or some other factor, but it's interesting to note.
This is probably due to a known issue of lemmy, casual conversation moved from world to avoid this issue. https://pawb.social/post/8619222 (I will likely be unable to reply/follow up for a few days.)