What happened with active users on Lemmy?

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Yeah. If they pushed it to the bottom of the list, or even removed them from the list but kept the user count, I could kind of understand it. But censoring them completely for being too successful seems like shooting yourself in the foot.

Lemmy.world is doing great and I'm happy for it and all that, but... 20 000 monthly active users does not exactly make them a tech giant that needs to be kept in check just yet. Ideally, instances of 20 000 active users should be quite normal at some point, and having stress tested the software before then should, one assumes, be a good thing.

buT mUh DeCenTrAlIZatiOn!

The decentralisation probably doesn't help either. People coming to Lemmy from other places are coming from a centralised system. That takes some getting used to.

If you're new to this, you can be forgiven by thinking that all the Lemmy instances are their own separate thing, like the forums of old, rather than that they're all interconnected (excluding a whole bunch of stuff about defederation and all of that mess).

Nah we'll keep dropping instances when they hit 20k users.

It’s because the devs suck

the few who join will leave because of the steep learning curve.

what steep learning curve? what's so steep about thinking of social media like email?

As far as I'm concerned that's a feature. If we let the normies in then it just turns into Reddit all over again. That slop pile can stay over there.

It's a genuine concern though. If you want one centralised server hosting all the content, just use reddit.

This has nothing to do with other instances. The join-lemmy.org site is run by the Lemmy developers and they decide what happens with that site. They think it's problematic that lemmy.world is as big as it is (as one of the points of the fediverse is decentralization). So they removed lemmy.world from the listing on join-lemmy.org.

Note that this is in no way a defederation or anything of that sort. The site just doesn't show lemmy.world, that's all.

I guess a new flag to only exclude it from the list but not exclude it from the stats 🤷

That's just how it works at the moment. It only counts active users from the sites listed.

Not really, pretending a third of the monthly active users do not exist isn't really anything I'm happy about.

LW is still in these stats, so there's that

• https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
• https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/

You can read their motivation in the linked pull request. FWIW I don't think there's any ill intent here and certainly not an attempt to boost their own instance. I think they just want Lemmy to be decentralized and lemmy.world being as big as it is kinda prevents that.

I'm not sure I would've done it that way personally but I can see the reasoning and it's not entirely unreasonable.

I very much doubt that they have discouraged signups to their instance many times

The notion of "summer reddit" went hand in hand with notion of "mom's basement" and even "touch grass" in a way.

Namely, all are dated ideas from millennials that are still thinking the person on the other end of the comment is sitting in front of a computer, as the default. It ignores the simple fact we all have the internet in our pockets and can be chronically online AND actually out in the world doing things at the same time.

Oh wow didn't even see this. Thanks for providing the actual reason.

I sort by new a lot so it definitely could be that actually. Good point.

How so?

Here you go: https://feddit.dk/post/7667476/10289642

Thank you!

I think voting should be as what was originally set out by Reddit; I don't know if it's still in their guidelines. The voting system indicates the relevancy of the contribution and whether it adds to the discussion or not. Spam and off-topic contributions gets shoved to the bottom and everything else rises to the top.

Obviously most people on Reddit these days use it as a like/dislike, agree/disagree voting system as well.

Does Lemmy instance owners and community mods ban people for having a different opinion that's so benign?

Some Reddit mods attempt to be authoritative and ban people who hold different opinions to themselves. I know I have and I stay out of subs that relate to politics, the news, and anything divisive really.

Literally all my downvotes are from people with different options. This is a huge echo chamber. I rarely insult anyone and I'm always polite. I don't believe vaccinations are safe for everyone since there are side effects, and I think each person should make their own decision about them. I don't think gender issues are the most important thing in the world.

These are controversial opinions on this platform. :) And I get a lot of downvotes for those opinions when they show up. Not that I care, because I just ignore it. But in the larger picture, it makes people leave the platform.

Why should they stay? I think Lemmy needs to have a good reason to be used. Memes won't be enough.

I still like the idea of a platform without big tech though. I just think most people don't realize what makes people stay on a platform. It's not memes.

Same here

The Star Trek ones over on startrek.website. They weren't the most active to begin with, though their activity has dropped a bit more over time.

Its not merged/deployed yet.

Numbers are the same, the actual reason is here: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/13842484

Yes, those websites have Trump content as well but is it a majority of the front page?

Because it’s not simply “distributing” the load; it’s actively hiding an instance as if it doesn’t exist. So what do they do when the next instance gets “too big” for their liking? Hide it, along side LW? And the next?

Re-read my comment — specifically the second half where I offer a potential solution that would actually distribute the load more fairly without having to hide anything.