What do you folks do for IRL privacy in terms of CCTV, facial recognition, etc?
What do you folks do for IRL privacy in terms of CCTV, facial recognition, etc?
Digital privacy seems quite straightforward, because your digital devices are environments you more or less can have complete control over if you want to. But when you're out and about, it's a much more uncontrolled environment. There are cameras everywhere.
I wear face masks everywhere for a combo of protecting myself from illness and privacy. But the limitation is social acceptability. If anything good came out of covid it's the normalisation of face masks, but you are far from unidentifiable if your only face covering is a covid mask. We're lucky that sunglasses and hoodies on their own are fairly normal, but all of the above in combination would draw attention to you. And it's definitely not socially acceptable to walk around in a balaclava.
The other thing is forensic data. If you don't wear gloves, you'll leave fingerprints everywhere, and hair too. I suppose wearing gloves is not particularly seen as weird or suspicious, but it just seems like there are a lot of considerations and challenges with preventing the state from knowing your every move when you leave the house.
What considerations do you make for IRL privacy, if any?
(Not particularly interested in "I don't care about IRL privacy so I don't do anything"—that's fine and your choice, but ofc this question is aimed towards those who do care)
This is one of the greatest things that came out of the pandemic, though. Its no longer weird to walk around in a face mask. Its normalized in almost every country, instead of just Asians.
Everywhere except in the USA's Republican states. It's an unforgiveable sin to be seen with a mask on there for stupid reasons.
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not much I can do about CCTV (without breaching important social norms)
(without breaching important social norms)
But why would anyone who cares about privacy consider them more important?
Because that can make you stand out even more.
As an example: No point using high contrast makeup to break up the patterns of your face from facial recognition if all they have to do is look for the guy with wacky makeup on in their footage.
Have fun not getting stopped by the police if you walk around with a balaclava, especially if you're Black.
Gotta say, I don't think most peoples' threat models make worrying about IRL privacy a concern, but that's obviously not the point.
For the record, I don't use any of these techniques myself, it's just stuff I've read.
For facial recognition, a lot of CCTV cameras don't have IR filters, and can be blinded with Infrared LEDs, so there have been some promising experiments with shoving a bunch of them into hats. You'll glow real bright in any footage, but they won't be able to see your face.
Beyond that, there's always prosthetics (think like what is used in movies) to alter your facial characteristics.
All that said, I believe the main way of identifying individuals in camera footage now is by gait analysis. Supposedly a rock in your shoe can change it enough to not match up between different footage.
You'd also want to ditch your phone or put it in a signal blocking bag, as it can be uniquely identified by the saved wifi SSIDs that it tries to connect to, and by its bluetooth unique identifier (might just be the MAC address), that can be tracked by low energy bluetooth beacons (how stores track customer movement within and how most places did covid exposure tracing with the apps).
As far as fingerprints go, maybe a light layer of superglue on your fingertips to disrupt the print patterns? That's a complete guess though.
What are the chances that an IR LED hat would get you run over by a self-driving vehicle? We already know they don't deal well with anything out of the ordinary, and they routinely slam into trucks and barriers.
Barely related, but I did see this recently and had a laugh
Edit: correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they misunderstood the abbreviation "cctv". Mixing up "closed-circuit" and "closed-captioned".
Nothing. The effort required to make a meaningful impact against this type of threat is way beyond my threat level.
So uh what kind of threat level are we talking about here
In the public, I wear sunglasses and a hat. I don't park in area's that have lots of cameras. Also don't try and stand out, don't wear to flashy clothing, but try and match a little.
For at your home, if you have a garage, park your car in the garage, that way when you leave, neighbors don't know your gone, or when your home. Also make sure to install some sort of lock on your garage door, but make sure it's not electric, found that out the hard way. If you live in an apartment complex, park your car out back if you don't need to carry anything in.
IRL privacy in winter is super easy, wear some layers, hat, sunglasses and gloves.
Some notes for you, standards change were you are, so reflect on the advice your given. For example, I live in the States, but some might live in Europe, cars are different, dress standards are different, stores are different, etc. So some pieces of advice that might be rock solid in one place, may not be wise in others.
Yeah my hoodie, mask, and sunglasses combo doesn't make me stand out, especially when I walk into the bank /s
I don't really bother much in public places, I use umbrellas when it rains and sunglasses when it is sunny, but In general I try to avoid connecting to public WiFi and always use my vpn when I do.
I dont have any identifying data on my mailbox. I make sure to destroy PII on mail.
My routine is normal, gray, boring.
They should make a sunscreen or moisturiser that shields you from face recognition and fingerprints, like those covers on license plates that make em shine on police cameras
a sunscreen or moisturiser that shields you from face recognition
Tin foil balaclava.
Stay in the basement and drink alone.
Ride a motorcycle. Then if you're wearing a helmet and gloves it's not odd
Motorcycles have license plates. Better to ride a bmx bicycle with a motorcycle helmet.
Won't attract any attention at all /s
My wife wears rubber gloves to the doctor. I have thought about getting some light butler type gloves for riding the train and such.
I love my Kolari shades I picked up when they were running their kickstarter. Fantastic to use indoors and out. https://kolarivision.com/product/kolari-shades-ultra/
Oh and if you have need enough to worry about fingerprints, best to just get rid of them outright and deal with the rather short but uncomfortable recovery for your fingers to heal back over.
Right, I just have to work at the pineapple plantation for 8 more years, then I'll be set
I love hoodies but a plain cap & a mask is my go to for being in public.
you can use a faraday sleeve/bag for walking around/using public transportation when carrying your phone/devices.
cash, for sure. also, using cash only for transit passes & not linking them to any identifiable accounts.
I vote for political parties that are explicitly against facial recognition when possible (always a small party that nobody knows). I use cash.