Yup, people wouldn't like the changes we would already have to make in order to save the planet
Like if people can't be bothered to boycott companies like Nestle how do you expect them to give up way more than some Nestle products for something they wont feel the worst effects off.
If they lack empathy for living people how would they have it for future generations...
(Actually maybe because some of those people don't see living children as equal to potential future children because the color of their skin and their economic conditions we might actually have a chance)
I dunno, I think it's doable. The messaging, that is. Problem is who owns the messaging service, and do they want to comply. I'm old enough to just remember the ozone layer. Everyone cared! Worldwide. No one fought the message. We all chipped in. And it worked. The problem isn't that people don't or won't care, it's serving them an effective message and that won't happen when the people who own the media, own the mines.
I agree. I used to be like the person above you. Now, I'm more like you are. I've spent less time being pessimistic and more time learning about ancient civilizations, and I gotta say... I feel confident that we'll press through the pressures and be better off for it.
People will still suffer and die, tho. I wish that part wasn't true... but as a species? We'll be just fine
The final section of AR6 was the “summary for policymakers”, written by IPCC scientists but scrutinised by representatives of governments around the world, who can – and did – push for changes. The Guardian was told that in the final hours of deliberations at the Swiss resort of Interlaken over the weekend, the large Saudi Arabian delegation, of at least 10 representatives, pushed at several points for the weakening of messages on fossil fuels, and the insertion of references to carbon capture and storage, touted by some as a remedy for fossil fuel use but not yet proven to work at scale.
Oh boy, I sure do love when countries bully scientists to tone down the urgency of their message to make a few more bucks.
At this point I feel like I've had as many final warnings on climate changes as I have had for my car's extended warranty.
Climate change IS real, not saying that it isn't but you would think Scientists would pick a different tactic given that "But 20 years ago you said the world would end in 5 years!"
Our real final warning was 20 years ago. Everything after is just a desperate attempt to get people to actually realize how fucked we already are and how much worse it'll be if we don't do something about it.
Then there's people like you who apparently don't pay attention to weather patterns because globally they're fucked right now. And all scientific data shows they're just gonna keep getting worse.
Remember how bad hurricane Katrina was? How it was talked about for years? We're gonna be getting storms much stronger than that on a more regular basis. Some parts of the world already are.
No, I'm paying attention and I'm well aware of how bad the situation is, but saying this is the last chance every 10 years is the kind of talk that creates skepticism at a time when we can't afford skepticism
Except that it is happening already - incremental change is hard to notice. But the summers keep getting hotter, and the natural disasters worse and more frequent.
Not to be contrarian, I know this is an ever growing problem, but is it really doing any good to continue phrasing the issue like this?
It’s starting to sound like those cults who predict the end of the world every 10 years.
Let the data speak for itself. Show the models and the projected results. I truly believe that we are in a dire position, but the current method of communication is not working.
Also, I don’t believe the feedback mechanisms are ever emphasised enough. Climate change isn’t linear and global temperatures will increase exponentially, even if our rate of emissions increases linearly over time. Warmer air holds more water vapor and melting permafrost releases additional greenhouse gases, both exacerbating the greenhouse effect.
It’s starting to sound like those cults who predict the end of the world every 10 years.
People have been trying to get people to care for 60 - 100 years with data and projections and it has done nothing.
Let the data speak for itself. Show the models and the projected results. I truly believe that we are in a dire position, but the current method of communication is not working.
As above, this was the first thing that was tried and it doesn't work, why would it work now?
Also, I don’t believe the feedback mechanisms are ever emphasised enough. Climate change isn’t linear and global temperatures will increase exponentially, even if our rate of emissions increases linearly over time. Warmer air holds more water vapor and melting permafrost releases additional greenhouse gases, both exacerbating the greenhouse effect.
True, but if we can't get people to care at all, they won't care about the nuance
Hurr durr, there was a massive impact 60 million years ago, 11 deep into the human evolutionary chain when our great ancestor looked like a rat (carpolestes), and 75% of species went extinct you think the planet wont recover.
Oh yes, it will, it will recover. And life will likely flourish. Without us.
So we are on the cusp of feasibly colonizing other worlds but the idea of colonizing our own world as it becomes less and less habitable over time with the same technology is somehow entirely alien to you.