The Unix Way, everybody!

If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

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everything is a file including a filesystem*

* including databases

git repo is blockchain

For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"
- *starts rocking back and forth in chair
or CSV files

and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

bussy
As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.
the anus isnt self lubricating :(
- https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function
  
  Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus
  
  It is though...
- It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

@mlg @drq lol imagne that :michaelwazowski: :michaelwazowski:

You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

And files are streams. 🎵 Islands in the stream. 🎵

🎵 That is what we awk 🎵

They’re more like blob storage.

Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.
- Hmm that's a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out
It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.
- Sqlite is the best in most cases
Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

But they are not DBMS

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Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

@RizzRustbolt What's your fetch modus, warrior?
- "I have a system". Items are sorted randomly on to the top of "piles". I can retrieve any item from any pile, but pulling from anywhere except from the top of the pile destroys it.