Something tells me Karl Marx wouldn't like these things either.
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These westerners are social democrats which is not hard to understand, it's wiki entry away.
It’s infuriating considering that it’s in the first goddamn sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.
If those libs could read they’d be very upset.
Man im pretty socialist who lives in ex east germany with my parents actually being parz of that time and i gotta tell you, with what i hear from them, it was horrible
ahhh yes... horrible as in:
- guaranteed housing and employment
- a non-discriminatory education system
- 0% unemployment
- low taxes
- an actually functional railway network
- a highly developed health care system that didn't discriminate on basis of class
- guaranteed childcare
- womens rights way more advanced than in western germany at the time
- and most importantly no fascists in government
and no, i dont wanna say that there were no deficiencies, but it is rather obvious to me that it was quite the opposite of "horrible"!
also, what the hell do you mean by "pretty socialist"?
Ah yes the oh so good DDR with exciting features such as
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no freedom of movement
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constant shortage of any goods
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being a dictatorship
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(contrary to your first point) a housing shortage
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a culture so dictated by work that people had little to no free time
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political pressure
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control over the media
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the fucking stasi
And what i mean by pretty socialist is: everyone gets equal opportunities no matter what race, religion, gender, political views, etc. I want that chad - who just lost all his belongings - has the same chance to live a fulfilled live as elon musk has. I abhorr the fact that there are billionaire's or even just millionaire's while other people have to choose between paying rent or eating, and those people not even being in the worst situation compared to others.
I want almost, but not completely, communism
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Ah right, we are in the meme community. Carry on.
I just hate murderous regimes that murder millions of their own people
FTFY
Average imperial core Cold Warrior understander.
... And? A lot of socialists are also libertarian in equal measure.
libertarian "socialists" are a deeply idealist tendency that didnt manage to get anything done ever. the only thing they do is criticize actually existing socialist projects, mostly using state department talking points. the concept of critical support is unknown to them and the only revolutions they like are the ones that fail. they are puppets in the hands of the cia.
It's not very enlightened to call entire movements like libertarian socialism (AKA anarchism) just idealist, ineffectual, and to imply they're essentially brainwashed by the US government.
Anti-state movements have a history as long and storied as socialism, and theoretical frameworks for their beliefs far more complex than you give them credit for.
Anarchist Spain and the Makhnovhscina as short lived as they were were closer to even Marxist communism than any of those authoritarian shitholes
I kinda suspect ты из Калининграда
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There's no contradiction there.
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Is it so much to ask that workers councils be in charge instead of some revolutionary
The history of socialist movements shows that it is. Rosa Luxemburg was right over a hundred years ago.
Apparently so!
The healthcare system is just fraud anyway just finish the job and make it for everyone not the ultra rich.
You know, I thought that, with Lemmy being less popular than Reddit, there would be less political propaganda messaging on here
But it seems I'm mistaken
Lemmy is less popular and therefore more niche, meaning you'll get smaller communities with stronger opinions, and therefore way more political extremism
This is not propaganda what do you mean? It's literally citing socialist states
Btw Lemmy is communist, created by Dessalines, first instance is literally lemmy.ml for Marxism-Leninism
what do you mean? the lack of cia talking points here is really refreshing imho. on reddit everything is drowned in a sea of "communism bad"-bots.
It's only like two guys that have been doing this for the last week, and I have no idea what their game is. Lemmy doesn't have enough people for the propaganda to make a meaningful difference, even if everyone did buy into it. Are they stupid?
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