does it rule?

It wasn't murder though. It was self defense/defence of the innocent.

If someone was actively on a homicidal rampage, blood still on their hands as they sprint to kill more innocent people, it wouldn't be murder to stop them even with lethal means.

This guy is responsible for thousands of deaths, and showed no indication he was going to stop. Killing him alone doesn't stop all the innocent deaths, but if it gives is peers reason to pause their own murderous rampages, even briefly, that alone could save many people.

I'm not signing for a murderer, I'm simping for a goddamn hero.

If it was self defence then they should have surrendered instead of fleeing.
- You mean surrender to a group of violent murderous thugs whose whole job is to protect the murderous slavers that are our ruling class?

shut up

I'm not celebrating that a bad person died, but that the bad people are afraid. It's fucked up to think any justice was delivered from the death of one guy. The justice comes from how this motivates people to work towards systemic change; a world where these rich sickos are held back rather than encouraged. These rich people are not like us, and their panic is driving that truth home. Make them panic more. Let them widen the divide between us and them. Force them to show their true colors.

Simping for him is the right thing for us to do. It furthers his act of terror against the rich without spilling any blood. It doesn't matter that it's an empty threat for most of us; the more we celebrate him, the more people will take out their anger on the best targets imaginable.

If we don't do it, that lonely white man will just shoot innocent people for infamy like they've been doing. They will join the cops or vigilante fascists in lynching trans people of color like me to scratch their itch for blood. This agitation propaganda is helpful in combating the agit-prop from the right. They've been doing stochastic terrorism against children for years, so fuck them and their mother if they complain about civility.

We're in a state of nature now, with no political or economic sovereignty to speak of. We don't have any human rights thanks to these rich idiots not appreciating the sweet deal they had, so I only feel empowered when I call their murderer hot.

I'm simping for the opening of CEO season.
I can't believe that after thousands of years humanity still struggles with "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

When under attack, defend yourselves. When a potential possible attack some time in the future seems likely, or when a benefit provided by society via democratic system is taken away, if you attack preemptively then you're probably just a POS.

We might be happy this time, but the next person might kill somebody we like. They might feel emboldened to target trans folk and democratic socialists. If violence escalates to riots then one side might start gunning the other down in the street. The only people who want the poor and ignorant to kill each other are enemies of our society as a whole.

You do not get to decide who lives or dies. No one does.
- This isn't "an eye for an eye" this is about the neutralization of a serial eye remover. An eye for a thousand eyes seems a very easy choice to make.
- If an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, one person denying over 80% of insurance claims is a whole lot of eyes, which is a crazy ratio. I don't think your analogy works.
  
  Nation wide, 305 million Americans have health insurance. Over 80% were being denied because of a faulty system these companies refused to fix. That is 244,000,000 people. Two hundred and forty four million people being rejected.
  
  United has 51 million people it """"covers"""", being generous and saying it was only 80% who were getting denied from this system means that's still 40 million 800 thousand people.
  
  All your what ifs already happened because of 2016 btw.
- Then why are you celebrating the death of a bad person in the first place? That's the actual "eye for an eye" shit that's making you blind. The death itself isn't worth celebrating, only the effect of it on the world.
  
  We are under attack dumbass. We're being parasitized by the rich! The democratic system in the US is gone with the election of Trump. What the fuck do you actually think that would look like if not this? You're either in denial, or too cowardly to actually stick to your word.
- If it was an eye for an eye we'd trap them and their descendants into ever worsening debt spirals, make them use a system that actively works against them to get their health issues treated, and we'd sit them in places for eight hours a day, for five days in a row, where they must do as we say to survive. This isn't an eye for an eye, this is a sucker punch after years of having our eyes systemically removed.
- This is basically the tolerance paradox but for violence. If people are willing to use violence on me (denying healthcare, keeping us poor, stochastic terrorism) then I'm fine using it back, otherwise they get free reign.
- You need to read trans folk have always been targeted.
- I would argue that people we care for are already under attack and dying... some of them directly because of bad policies, political and corporate.
- An eye for an eye doesn't make the whole world blind. It makes a few people blind until they wise up and realize "Wait, I like making people blind, but I don't want to be blind!" And then they stop blinding people, thus removing the need to blind them in return.
- You’re the epitome of the cautionary adage that all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
  
  As for your claim that an eye-for-an-eye is somehow bad? Tit-for-tat is an excellent strategy for maintaining successful cooperation.
  
  Lastly, there’s no coherent normative theory according to which killing is bad categorically. That’s simply ridiculous.
- The violence has been escalating longer than you've been alive. This instance is smaller than the day before it.
  
  You don't have a problem with violence, you just dislike it when it's done to the rich.

Both. Both is good.

If you do both you're in category 2

heaven's door, draw this individual as the soy wojak

granted.

source of wojak
- Kinda fucked up that they believe in such retributive justice, ngl 🤭
- thanks heaven's door you're a real one lmao
You forgot the knocking first.

Anyone who uses simp unironically can be automatically disregarded.

Forgive me lord for I must simp 🙏

I feel like you're looking at middle circle level judgement from your lord.

Oh fuck off with the divisive bullshit.

Much like those tankies and anarchists you think are your friends, I was never on your side to begin with. There is no Divide here. There is rational moral principles and then there is your ass.
- lol ok there smart guy
  
  Your moral superiority will only get more people killed. But you don’t have to hear about it, so I guess that’s ok to you.

This feels like the murder equivalent of using porn, but considering porn makers beneath you.

A more apt hypothetical is if the porn was a byproduct of human trafficking but the victim was responsible for killing 300,000 Dolphins.

Porque no los dos?