what youtube is doing is a slow easing of removing adblockers rather than an immediate one
what youtube is doing is a slow easing of removing adblockers rather than an immediate one
if they outright forced us to stop day one there'd be outrage, so they instead ease us in. first a popup, then a timed popup, slowly leading to their actual goal but without the risk of an initial outrage. i know this is an extreme comparison but we're like lambs to a slaughter
My blind guess is they are doing split testing with various ad-blocking measures.
Whenever someone interacts with the message, they know the popup worked. Best reaction is currently to use uBlock Origin's element picker or zapper to hide the popup.
The company is likely gathering data in various blocking methods to see which is the most foolproof.
Thank you. I'd forgotten that uBlock had the zapper function
I started getting the popups recently. Tried blocking the elements with uBlock, but in turn it would pause the video 2 seconds in. Pretty annoying. So I said screw it and installed an extension that would redirect the youtube watch page to an Invidious instance. Might as well make the transition now before they completely block adblockers for good. Screw Google!
What extension do you use to redirect youtube page?
Not the original commenter , but I'd think is Libredirect
Tampermonkey along with this userscript. Works a charm!
I'll be a bit sad if YT becomes unwatchable without blocking ads but I'll get over it and watch something else somewhere else. Same as I did with Reddit.
I'll be a bit sad if YT becomes unwatchable without blocking ads
YT has been unwatchable without blocking ads for years now.
I disabled all extensions while trying to fight against that pop-up and I realized YouTube is almost unwatchable even with adblocker if you don't have sponsor block. How someone can sit thru the ads and sponsored sections just blows my mind. As if sitting on youtube watching videos isn't already waste of your time enough.
Umm I don't think they care. They have a monopoly on amateur video hosting and only make money off of it with ads. If you are watching without ads or premium then you are costing them money. They do not care about your outrage. This isn't reddit where it might have caused a long term permanent degradation to their content, the people posting stuff want you to pay or have ads as well. Users do not act as moderators or content providers (I mean I'm sure most content providers are users as well but they want ad revenue). They have just ignored ad blocking for long enough to get monopolies in their areas (browser, YouTube) and are now getting rid of that problem. I'm honestly amazed at how they took over the browser market. Almost everything is chromium based now. Even email. They may not have a monopoly, but they certainly made themselves the standard.
Tldr: they aren't doing it slow for fear of outrage. They did it slow to get a monopoly.
Premium absolutely does not cost them money fwiw, it wouldn't exist if it did, they aren't that stupid.
You misread their post.
If you are watching without ads or premium then you are costing them money.
The youtube thing is an annoyance. The one that's REAL concerning is what happens when Google eventually forces Firefox out of the market by convincing everyone to build their websites in such a way as to only run on Chromium based browsers. I mean, American Anti-Trust laws are just completely fucking gutted, so it's not like there will be any consequence to them doing that. But once they do, they'll have a veritable monopoly on the internet. At least the internet most people interact with.
There's outrage alright.
https://lemmy.world/post/6811788
https://lemmus.org/post/1138230
https://links.roobre.es/post/451
https://lemmy.world/post/6755067
https://kbin.melroy.org/m/til/t/52393
https://lemmy.world/post/6702422
https://lemmy.myserv.one/post/3116340
https://infosec.pub/post/3519906
https://lemmy.world/post/6697059
Well just look at the youtube sub on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/1792um0/let_that_sink_in_before_you_defend_a_billion/
99% of comments are youtube apologists
Hopefully most of those are bot comments & the mods are probably youtube employees
Looks like astroturfing to me
No offense, but you went to a subreddit that's likely to have people who enjoy google products and because of that are less likely to be critical even when they don't agree with the company. Have you looked at the r/technology subreddit posts about this issue? Or r/privacy or any of the other subreddits that might give a better view?
This is like going to the apple subreddit to find out if people are outraged bout the price of iPhones.
I love these types of posts and comments. I get about halfway in to realize I don't know shit about my fellow human beings and how they're navigating/viewing the world. This is one hot glittery pony show of a society circling the sewer drain.
not as large as qhat it wouldve been
Each one of those posts has hundreds or more comments and upvotes. Lemmy is still relatively small. I'm positive this is all over Reddit but I'm not gonna go check. The outrage is here and it is thriving where posts directly pointing to solutions are not (they get maybe ten to twenty upvotes and a handful of comments each). There have been multiple articles in the news cycle about it.
It was similar with the Netflix price hike and the Netflix anti-password sharing going public. Remains to be seen whether that outrage will actually amount to anything.
I would call it pretty fast, I got the popup for the first time less than a month ago and I already rely on the magic uBlock does to even be able to watch YouTube.
I got the pop ups for a while, then they went away. They are back again. Fortunately I am still able to ignore it and not see any adds. If there is a time where I am forced to watch adds, it will hurt, but I will give up YouTube. I hope others give it up and don't cave if it comes to that.
I gave up reddit the day apollo stopped working and I will quit youtube the day I have to see any ads whatsoever. It just frees up time to do other, more fulfilling, things.
The solution is to use Firefox or even better librewolf with uBlock. If you already have these, purge the filters cache and then update it back again. If you still have problems with this after doing these steps, there's probably some extension conflicting with it or an extra manual filter you added. Cheers
Why librewolf is better?
It's a privacy oriented fork of Firefox. Removes telemetry, pocket button, sync to cloud, etc.
This project is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom.
LibreWolf is designed to increase protection against tracking and fingerprinting techniques, while also including a few security improvements. This is achieved through our privacy and security oriented settings and patches. LibreWolf also aims to remove all the telemetry, data collection and annoyances, as well as disabling anti-freedom features like DRM.
At some point YouTube kind of block your account with the message instead of the video.
Honestly haven't had that issue at all yet. If that happens, this userscript can be a solution (with something like grease monkey) https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/477725-youtube-iframe-adblocker. Using NoScript to turn off JS should also work. As a last resort you can use a script that redirects YouTube videos to invidious or some other alternative.
Yeah I don't see that as a solution, more as a stop gap for the time being just like Vanced and any other tool that stands/stood between Google and more money.
whats a filter cache
Saved data from filters in ublock I think
FreeTube still works flawlessly.
You are goddamn right about that one. Though I think Youtube is being petty with this war against adblockers, none of the major browsers block Youtube ads by default afaik.
10 million on uBlock alone, easy to see how thats a huge untapped market
Sure. A huge untapped market of people who don't want anything to do with VPN ads.
How can YouTube interfer with adblockers in Firefox/Librewolf/IceCat?
Client side web DRM is coming, which is why Google makes browsers and OSs now.
Adblock will be prohibited for “security”.
Relevant link: https://interpeer.io/blog/2023/07/google-vs-the-open-web/
Bottom line: Google want to introduce a live certification process for web clients so that webservers can potentially discriminate against specific configurations.
Would ad nauseam work since it clicks ads for you?
They’re trying
wdym
People have been chasing adblockers since the dawn of the internet.