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How is this better value? I have a S9+, still full day battery and runs everything.

How is buying a new phone 'value'. What value does this bring exactly? You bring up dialup as a compassion. Well, modern connections don't tie up the phone line and are magnitudes faster (my Internet is 17,857x faster than dialup).

What tangible thing has been added to Mobile phones in the last 5 years? 10 years? What real value. Pretty sure my phone has more features than any 'modern' new phone.

The big reason is that you're choosing to spend several hundred dollars to put your still perfectly performant phone in a land fill so you can have a percentage or two more performance.

Your dial up comparison is not really a fair comparison, either. The S9 is not dialup in comparison to Samsung's new galaxy phones. You'd have to go down to like a BlackBerry or a Nokia flip phone to have that comparison make sense.

Have you thought about why Switch is the best selling console in the current generation even though it's by far the weakest in performance?

Even Apple has to abide by the laws of physics. 3nm is fast, but a small, tightly packed, passively cooled device containing a large, heat generating element powered by a another large, heat generating element is unlikely to outperform a well ventilated, actively cooled device that is able to draw power from an outlet.

This is of couse ignoring the Apple reality distortion field, which in recent memory has succesfully perpetuated the idea that a tiny photo sensor can outperform a large one.

We've been hearing about Apple coming back to the gaming market for quite a long time now and absolutely nothing happens. The iPhone 15 isn't going to change anything in this regard, it's going to be a party trick with a handful of popular games ported to it and then nothing else.

The performance of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 GPU is already about 10-20% faster than the A16 chip, depending on the benchmark.

Even if Qualcomm only gives the Gen 3 a 10% performance increase, that is enough to beat or even surpass the A17 in gpu performance (rumors suggest something closer to a 30% increase). The Gen 2 already outcompetes the A16 in GPU power consumption and efficiency as well. This may change with the A17 since it’s on TSMC’s 3N node, however this node has been having issues which is why TSMC introduced the 3NE and 3NP so we will have to wait for power usage numbers from the A17 to see.

Overall I’m disappointed with the improvements between the A16 and A17. 10% on the CPU and 20% on the GPU (due to have 20% more cores) doesn’t seem like the type of upgrade I would expect from switching nodes. Hopefully next year they can do more with the improved N3 nodes. I’m also getting the feeling that Apple is trying to deploy more complex transformer models on their devices which is why we are seeing such a focus on the NPU.

I think you hit on the main point which is that nobody will pour money into developing for android. Apple also has the ability to make deals with companies with Capcom and Ubisoft to ensure games come to their platforms. I can’t see Google doing this since they already “tried” and failed to have a AAA mobile gaming platform with stadia. The only other company with enough motivation and money to bring big games to android is Samsung, but their mobile chips aren’t doing too well (despite their RDNA 2 architecture making it easier to port games).

Pushing the leading edge of phone design opens new use cases, it's not always just about "doing the same shit, slightly faster"

It's about creating new shit that runs at the same speed.

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Mine is borderline unusable compared to my pixel 5.

Is it summer and am I outdoors? Phone will shutdown due to overheating.

Am I using Google maps and the phone is mounted in direct sunlight? It will throttle dark mode to manage overheating .

Have I been using the phone throughout the day? It needs to be charged before I leave work.

Honestly I'd say my p7p is the worst phone I've had in a long time, it's hard to go back without considering how phones were for their time, but my instinct is that the last time I had a phone this comparably bad it was a Samsung Galaxy s3.

Small question.

Which apps make your phone heat up?

Ah, Fairphone?

I have pixel 5 and 6. I got tired of my six only lasting half a day without needing a charge so I switched back to the pixel 5 with lineage os. I can routinely get 2 days worth of normal use on a single charge plus I prefer the smaller form factor. An SD slot would be nice, I've got 100+gb of FLAC music on my phone.

The Galaxy S5 is still ahead of its time today. Minus high refresh rate because 60hz was the standard in 2014, but it also had a headphone jack and heart rate sensor built in as well.

I used to buy it and root right away, but always having to dance around safetynet was a pain. havent been rooted in a while :l

Such a phone would be everyone's dream to be honest. 🌠📱

My phone (Moto G8 Play) does have a microSD slot and a headphone jack, while in terms of hardware is the bare minimum nowadays (only having 2GB of RAM).

But at the very least having a Motorola is probably the 2nd best thing when it comes to minimal bloatware.

And not the size of an iPad.

I know you probably don't mean it this way, but it's not literally any phone. Also custom ROMs could have their own issues and bugs to deal with.

not any phone. And you have to rely on someone to maintain the build. And hope that it's stable. And the manufacter has to allow unlocking bootloader without sacrificing a goat.

Dude this kind of response is so fucking annoying. Any time someone says they prefer tech that works someone like you shows up to But Ackshually them about it.

Some people want the product to be what they expected out of the goddamn box.

99 percent of phones can't be unlocked nowadays

I did that in the beginning, when Android was new. I do not want that hassle. I just want to use my phone

I've tried and failed miserably.

You will inevitably run into various minor issues like the fingerprint sensor not working very well, or face unlock is fiddly, or auto-brightness behaves strangely, or double-tap to wake has stopped working, etc etc.