Why are developers so attached to computer gibberish
Why are developers so attached to computer gibberish
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These kinds of brainlets fundamentally don't understand computing or why anyone would actually care about how to craft computing. They are the guys (and it is always men) that will write O(n^x) algorithms, in dynamic languages, and complain about needing more/bigger hardware. Before there were LLMS, these were the dudes that would copypasta an error into some chat or forum without actually reading/understanding the error or copypasta code from the first stack overflow answer.
They aren't interested in computing, only money. These people should not be in our industry. They make everything worse for everyone else. That irritating bug in that SaaS product that your company makes you use? Written by THAT guy. Hell, maybe you even work with THAT guy. Other highly skilled labor all has gates and gatekeepers to minimize the amount of THAT guy. Wanna practice law? Pass that bar exam. Wanna practice medicine. Where is your medical license? Wanna engineer bridges? Also need that license. But software doesn't have that. So we end up with way more THAT guys, just like the mouth breather in this post. They shouldn't be writing software. And nothing exposes these bro coders better than when they express their shitty opinions on how awesome these AI tools are for writing code. It is the literal embodiment of Dunning-Kruger.
and it is always men
Uhm...
Quality jerk, I shed a tear
LOL
Holy shit, didn't realize this was a circle jerk! My comment was serious, but it is way more hilarious in this context. Won't change a thing. I am not above being a caricature of myself.
I swear, LinkedIn is like professional 4chan. This must be a troll. Any publicity is good publicity.
Why bother cooking at home when you can eat processed food from the gas station?
GPT: Eating is process!
I used to think the average person wasn't dumb but everything following Trump's 2nd term has changed my mind
I work with people that use GPT. Their code is garbage save for one (1) guy who actually tests it and makes sure the logic is okay
This is who the average code gen user is like:
they're unaware they're writing bad code
they copy and paste the output without 2nd thought for the approach the code gen took
they think code gens generate "correct code", even for SQL statements that make heavy business logic assumptions
anyone telling you to use AI code Gen is either incompetent or extremely naive
It is not ready for its advertised use and at best it is good at generating boiler plate
also anyone who tells you programming is going away because of AI has shit for brains
the people typing stuff in AI (assuming we're in a future where it actually works) won't be your average andy business guy, it's going to be a coder. the role would just be slightly different
not to mention there are thousands of applications to programming that you do not want code generators to touch such as heavy machinery automation in which a programming error can literally end lives
Wow, imagine some people are so dumb that they're not even shy to demonstrate their dumbness in public.
It's ok if it comes from a non-developer. A guy who doesn't know how things work.
Stop! I got it! This guy just doesn't have a clue about his job.
That's what makes him promotion material
ahaha that's a good one.
It's like asking a pet owner "why are you so attached to your pet? you only spend money to buy food, can't you just spend that money on a floor-cleaning robot instead? it even moves in similar ways and makes some noise, so how big could the difference really be?"
well, one has a soul, the other does not.
Sometimes, one will shit on your floor. The other won't, but it will spread the shit all over your entire home without hesitation.
One time, some person from high up the hierarchy came to our department meetup. So, a room full of people who have this job, because they enjoy coding. And the guy said something along the lines of "with AI, you won't have to do coding anymore" like that's a good thing. Yeah, dude, wrong audience for that speech...
I've been coding for like.. 25 years, mostly professionally.
I've been learning game development on and off for years and just started with Godot and c#. I use deepseek and chatgpt sometimes because I know what I want to do just not the best syntax to do it (and throw in having to avoid dynamic stuff for iOS' AoT compiler)
Both frequently forget the language, library, task or context. Context is ok, but asking for how to do X in Y and it gives you an answer predicated on using Z (which l, due to unfamiliarity you don't find out until after starting to implement it) sucks.
I get a slightly easier day when it works. But I've lost days of time to it fucking with me. Eventually you become so wary that it really is just a glorified search engine now. I tell it show me X and only the code, that seems to be the fastest way to get what I need and confirm it's not hallucinating a different environment or whatever.
People with less experience in general will suffer far worse because those pitfalls won't be obvious to them.
GPT got worse with the most recent update, answers ignore large chunks of the prompt and as they distill further I think that will get worse.
Tl;Dr AI isn't very good at programming and seems to have gotten worse (at least with specific questions Vs general ones)
People with less experience
I now refer to an Amazon review on a scripting language:
spoiler
Don't purchase the first edition of this book if you are new to coding.
The technical editor missed a number of errors or mistakes in the example code. I have experience coding multiple scripting languages, so I recognize mistakes in the book and can remedy them in my own code and continue the lesson. Beginners, however, will type the example code and the output won't match the book and they won't have the experience to know why.
I found and identified something like five errors in the first three chapters. In chapter four, there is an error that will cause the reader to get no output while the book shows five lines of text as the output. Again, a seasoned coder from another language will be able to identify the cause and then look for the right command to plug in, but a first-time or very green learner will just be frustrated.
All that said, this is an excellent book for someone who understands the concepts of scripting languages and just wants exposure to the PowerShell way of doing things. The author writes clearly and competently. Would recommend whole-heartedly to any who are comfortable in other languages.
How would a programming book have that kind of mistakes? Do they manually type the code, and output separately?
Any semi-competent programmer will copy paste the code to the terminal and copy the output.
And any competent programmer will make sure the output is auto generated from the code so there's no mistakes.
Because AI can't generate 1/10th of the code I write.
When it works I totally use it. Fixing the hallucinations and bad code is usually quicker than writing from scratch myself, especially in a language or system I don't use regularly.
This is just pure ragebait, why do you fall for it?
The real ragebait was this lemmy post all along