Does lemmy.world really have 26000 users already?
Does lemmy.world really have 26000 users already?
EDIT: Just crossed 26000!
Almost! At the time of this post, lemmy.world has a whopping 25733 users and is growing fast.
Since my last post yesterday, it has added 4000 new users, making it the clear second-largest lemmy instance out there. Also quickly catching up to lemmy.ml's 36000 (not taking new signups).
beehaw.org (3rd largest) sits at 12500 users, partly because of more restrictive registration requirements.
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Exciting to see all this growth!
I think Lemmy.world is the new meta right now. All Reddit refugees overflow this instance as this is the most generic one and by looking and the number of communities it’s the smarter choice.
I just hope that the influx of users won’t cause too many server issues. I can already imagine what the devs feel like to have so many active users without mentally and technologically preparing for it
Hello from kbin.social. Isn’t federation and diversity great?!
Great to see kbin.social rejoin everyone after the server upgrades!
In this blessed age, we are all Federation champions. Or we devolve:
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
It is! Hello fellow kbinian!
Any idea how many users we have?
Server issues have been a growing pain for everyone over the past couple of weeks. Good thing lemmy.world's admin @[email protected] has experience running mastodon.world, so this server/instance has been the most stable for me.
The lemmy.world mod is active and knows what he's doing from the looks of it. He upgraded the infra recently.
That includes people it knows about from Federated servers.
For the real numbers you need to use their nodeinfo, for example: https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0
Kbin has 30119 right now.
According to fedidb.org, the entirety of the Lemmy network (that uses the Lemmy software) has 140,442, while the entirety of the KBin network (that uses the KBin software) has 32,830.
you're reading it wrong, I'll maybe get to lokking up the link, but you're looking at a"users in the database" count, which includes posts from the fediverse.
kbin has ~27k usersoh,29k, that was quick
https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0FediDB says kbin.social has around 30k users and fedia.io has 2.8k: https://fedidb.org/software/kbin
Now I'm confused. Who's right?
kbin.social has 29.8k local users.
157k is local + all federated servers.kbin.social has 29K currently: https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 , fedia has 2.9K
fedidb.org has roughly accurate stats or you can check the nodeinfo url for each instance to get a count of only local users to that instance
It was already very sluggish yesterday
We're here! 10 year reddit user, deleted my account last week. Forcing myself to post and not just lurk. Fellow lurkers please comment a bit. Once traffic is decent you may resume your lurking. Thank you
15 years for me, ditched reddit a few days ago. platform is toxic, management doesnt care about the userbase at all.
fuck em
Yeah, I am a long time lurker from Reddit as well. Now I started a community for back country skiing [email protected] . Feel free to come watch me awkwardly post trip pictures trying to get the community going :-)
This is for sure a good thing to note. While bits of potential advertisement can be made by lurking, new users will be more inclined to join and stay if they see people.
Haha this is exactly what I am trying to do over at Warframe's instance at dormi.zone
Pre she ate u
Hi, fellow lurker! I've being doing my part commenting here and there. I'm loving this place!
Crawling out of lurking to show support. Using Jerboa right now, but I keep getting timeouts and it's making browsing clunky since all my upvotes/comments are being undone.
But otherwise I love the concept of the fediverse so I'm here to stay
I'm getting that problem too. I saw that word - fediverse - a lot recently and it seemed like a concept that would be beyond me so I didn't even look. Now that I have, my mind is blown and technology continues to amaze me. The networks just get larger and I love it.
Similar. About seven years? Deleted and moved to lemm.ee and frankly I think it's good that we're having to learn about federation etc. An appropriate barrier to participation that is easily overcome if you just give it a little bit of your time. Reddit can go insert itself into the anus of the wicked witch of the west. And Spez can do the same.
8 years on Reddit and it’s refreshing having something new to learn to use
Just joined lemmy.world in response to reddit's BS. Picked this instance because its sounds most normal compared to other gibberish names. Hi everyone!
You picked... Wisely! Welcome! It might be slightly confusing at first but just browse and chat wherever you can!
Yep still get subscribe pending for lemmy.ml but lemmy.world is ready with the instant subs 🙏🏾
The devs don't want to run the flagship instance with all the sysadmin and moderation issues that brings. You made the right choice :)
Yeah if the rate of 3-4k new users per day keeps up, lemmy.world should overtake lemmy.ml in just a few days even. Might even get another huge influx on July 1 when third-party reddit apps shut down.
lemmy.ml seems to be mostly memes at this point
I reckon the biggest instances in a year won't have been made yet, we're in the equivalent of first year Reddit.
Except BeeHaw as defederated lemmy.world - which is a shame. Step in the wrong direction IMO. That's going to be a huge problem because now if you're a BeeHaw member you no longer see anything lemmy.world related - you're suddenly, overnight, cut off from thousands of people and posts.
Having these larger instances owned by 1 person like they all are now is a shame, but unavoidable at the beginning I suppose. One of them gets bitter and you have thousands defederated. I guess over time as things splinter up more it may get better.
I'll likely just spin up my own instance so I can federate with everyone and never be dropped (at least from my side).
For what it's worth, beehaw.org is run by 4 admins and a number of mods. They also hope the defederation is temporary until better moderation tools are available: https://beehaw.org/post/567170.
We'll see if they really mean that, but others have said that lemmy moderation tools are still limited compared to mastodon's, for example.
It's a shame that beehaw had to use a "nuke" because other moderation tools weren't available, but I think it makes for a great natural experiment in the early fediverse. Beehaw wants to build an instance with higher community standards, as is their right. Will defederation of lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works lead to fewer sign-ups at beehaw? Will members leave? Will they just make accounts at other instances and keep their beehaw account? Will this help spread membership to smaller instances? It should be interesting.
Probably the integration of modding tools like AutoMod would be heaps handy here, it could automatically flag potentially troublesome posts and help cut back on spam / bad actors.
From memory Reddit uses automod and so does twitch / discord. Though I'm not sure if they actively let you integrate with it directly on third party sites
I'm hoping we'll see no code online hosting options one day, would make single user instances a lot easier.
I was on Beehaw up until they announced the defederation, switch here straight after.
It seems beehaw doesn't have enough mod power to deal with the current influx of trolls, I don't agree with what they did but I do understand why they did it.
I'm thinking about self-hosting an instance, but I'm not clear if these bigger instances would block me because I'm some little unknown server. Would they have to manually give me access to interact (federate?) with them if I self-host? Or would I automatically be able to post on their server?
Think they would have to defederate manually, I've seen people running instances with only themselves as members with no complaints
Yeah, defederation is not the answer. We are few and we need to stick together. That's the whole point of the fediverse after all, many connected together.
This is why you choose not to have an account on beehaw or lemmy.world and still interact with both. Picking and lemmey instance to live on should be taking everyone some time until you see how the they function. You can even host your own lemmy instance.
The problem is when you've already been participating and growing your sub list on a lemmy.world account and then beehaw pulls this shit. Suddenly half my subs are taken away without warning.
I kinda understand beehaws stance. Lemmy.world is very lightly moderated right now, allowing a huge influx of problems, questionable posts, NSFW in wrong sections, tons of racism and bigotry flowing out the walls. Maybe if more people get that shit under control they will reconsider.
I feel pretty sure they even said it was temporary.
Gotta admit, a week ago when people were posting about Lemmy I didn't see it working. There were something like 500 active users when I checked join-lemmy.org. That was just not enough of a crictical mass to make it work.
Now I've been here a few days (with another login at kbin) and if this volume of traffic keeps up (i.e., there's enough happening to be interesting and make it worth coming back), I think I can live without reddit. I'm happyt to be wrong!
While the number of registered accounts is interesting the monthly active accounts numbers are more interesting as lemmy.world is claiming 8,005 while lemmy.ml is claiming 3,467 and beehaw.org is claiming 2,919. lemmy.world's growth in posts also indicates that it is the most active of the lemmy instances.
I just posted these graphs through my bot https://mastodon.social/@fediversecounter/110558349415198155
Does that mean lemmy.world didn't exist 2 weeks ago or had very little users? That's some insane growth then.
Lemmy.world is extremely new, I don't think it is more than a few weeks old but the person who created it is very active and working to improve it constantly. I think that shows in its uptime vs the other instances.
Here is the oldest post by ruud, the admin 2 weeks old:
it's nice to be here. i wish every person on reddit would have come here. fediverse should be the real usage of social media. Open and free of big corps.
Not every person. I'm perfectly fine with the bulk of Reddit users staying there to wallow in their own crapulence.
Long time lurker at Reddit, using Apollo, but now part of Lemmy, due to the disappointing action by Reddit. Thank you to this community for being a great alternative during this upheaval.
I'm in the same boat but with Rif, the funny thing is I've posted the same here in the last few days as the last year of reddit.
We out here!
I've been a full-time lurker only at Reddit for over 10 years, never made a single comment there. Never even created an account. I suppose I don't have any interesting reasons other than I never really had a desire to engage in those communities but did like it as a lookup resource. I'm an 'internet old-fart' that has always preferred forums and even ran a few back in the day.
The fediverse is the first 'newer' social system that gives me those old-school forum vibes while at the same time being fresh and more connected. It feels like this is one of those 'shifts' in internet history and is a good time to hop back on the internet social train.
It really does feel like a shift. Of course it doesn't have to be anything near as big as Reddit and that's alright. This can be its own thing, which I'm pretty happy to be a part of.
Definitely know what you mean on the old school vibes though, I wonder if part of it is because "reddiquite" feels so unnecessary here, you don't have to post in fear of a slew of downvotes.
Agreed.
I’ve never really experienced that so much since I didn’t actually engage with Reddit but I understand what you mean. In the forum days, we used to do ‘Post Exchanges’ or other events with other communities (shout-out to ye old: https://www.theadminzone.com) to try and increase engagement. This federation system is the perfect evolution of that, its like having all of these forum communities but we can all see and interact with each other.
My only concern is that like most things, if/once it gets popular it will start attracting more of the worst of the internet (and humanity). Right now people flocking here are usually more technically inclined or those willing to put more effort into trying something new. But hopefully this is were federation can help some as its much easier to have separate communities that make it less effective for bots, trolls and other degenerates to overtake, thus keeping the content appealing and interesting to engage with.
Man, when I joined this was a brand new instance with only few users. That wasn't even that long ago.
It's honestly pretty freeing to not have Karma at all. Keeps away the Gallowboobs of the world.
It also keeps me from occasionally seeing how much comment karma I have and feeling a tad embarrassed from the sheer volume. It definitely wasn't a quality over quantity thing.
Now if only Steam would hide my hours played in DOTA...
Imagine when the end of the month comes!
Yeah I suspect when the API changes actually take place, we'll see another surge of blackouts and migration. It should be fun!
Some lead developers of Lemmy also seem to subscribe to these political beliefs. But as long as they don't censor people (and that's pretty hard seeing as it's open source and federated) still seems fine.
FediDB has a "Threadiverse" category which tracks kbin + lemmy - we're up to 169,312 in total now!
Edit: Oops, forgot the link: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse
though how many of these are duplicate accounts?
I myself have one kbin account and one lemmy.world account because kbin was not stable enough the first day and i did hear great things about the lemmy.world stability. I do use both though and also considering opening a feddit account
180k now!!
I was looking forward to ridding myself of my Reddit addiction. Now I'm here...
Same. I couldn’t deal with just scrolling Instagram so I had to look for alternatives
Same. I couldn’t deal with just scrolling Instagram, I needed something else lol
Ah the sweet moment of having to retype your comment
Wow this is amazing. I am part of the 26000 club
In a row?
No, in a column.
Hey, try not to join any communities on the way to the parking lot!
A comrade of culture
All very new to me and changing daily with my understanding of things, but I'm in beehaw and lemmyworld because of beehaw restricting some instances. I want to see it all before deciding where to relocate more permanently
No reason why you shouldn't have multiple accounts!
Same, I have an account in both! Beehaw for the safety, LW for [email protected] and others
Also, if you have a Mastodon or kbin account, you can read Lemmy from there first if you want.
I love .world and I'm happy to see it grow. But at the same time I think such disproportion is not great and userbase should be more spread out.
There should be some kind of "tumbler" on join-lemmy
There's already kind of a "tumbler" at https://join-lemmy.org/instances. It confused the hell out of me the first time I tried to get on lemmy.
I get your point, but I also do see the benefit of a stable, default landing place (like lemmy.world is shaping up to be) before people start spreading out. Personally, I joined lemmy.world because it had a lot more content on its main page compared to the other instances (I also have accounts on other instances too).
Yes they seriously should. I get the people don't like the hassle of making multiple accounts or spending too long choosing where to live. I think with these early days though it is a wise thing to do. You don't have to live on the most popular server to enjoy the experience and talk to everyone.
saved this post for when we have millions of users! i can say i was here from the start
My first comment in the "fediverse" and on Lemmy as a platform, hopefully I can look on it the same in the future. I'd love to see this grow
We're coming over from Reddit. The damage their CEO is doing is becoming permanent.
27.3k as of right now, that is crazy! Its nice to see the instance counts going up for both lemmy and kbin, hopefully communities can be more spread out too to prevent defederation like we saw this morning.
I am a new user. I have NO idea on what I'm doing
Browse All Hot and when you notice several appealing posts coming from some community subscribe to it. Build up your "Subscribed" feed and see how it improves over time.
Welcome! Feel free to ask questions. People here are pretty responsive.
Big tip, go to your settings (web browser) and uncheck "show read post". That way you don't need to see the same post everyday because it has a lot of engagements. here is an article that will get you up to speed: https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-find-subreddits-communities/
If you are techy and care for a lot of info about how lemmy works check out this link: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/01-getting-started.html
Joined yesterday. Don't really grasp the different instances yet but world sounded like a default to me
Think of it like your email provider. One is yahoo, one is Google, one is Hotmail, etc. They can all email each other, but they have different rules.
.world is just another "provider" but by no means a default, in fact it was only started 2 weeks ago.
I'd be one of those users too if I could actually register here. the button just spins forever. Been like that for days now. :\
Hi, just registered. That was my case, and I simply had to verify my email, which somehow was redirected to the spam folder. So I suggest you check there and verify yours. Good luck.
Yeah, I've seen that suggestion. Haven't seen anything in my inbox nor spam across 2 email accounts now, so who knows. Searching up the username right now and one does pop up with a creation date that might be mine; no comments or posts lends credence to it being mine, maybe...
You could email lemmy.world's admin:
A registration doesn’t need to be approved here, you just need to verify your e-mail. (Check spam…) If there’s any issue with that, mail us at [email protected] so we can assist.
Check if your username is already in use. I got the spin forever issue when the username I was registering was already taken
Hi I'm new here. Does it matter what instance I'm subscribed to? I don't know what the practical differences would really be from my experience?
Beehaw just defederated a few instances, which means lemmy.world users can't really interact with their users. Other than that, it affects what shows up in your local feed.
I an new myself but I dont think it does. Only difference there might be is that some just lag more (lemmy.ml) due to so many users.
Yes. Beehaw admins have just blocked access to their instance for lemmy.world users. In order to get the most content possible, it's best to sign with an instance that isn't blocked by other instances. If you don't care about that then it doesn't matter who you sign up with though.
the lemmyverse takeover is inevitable
While this is indeed awesome remember that the whole point in federation is having a lot of small communities rather than one or two huge ones.
In large part the same also happened on mastodon where mastodon.social has 200k people. This is not the way that ti's supposed to work; no single instance should have this many users, in fact often it's better to have instances for maybe 50 users at most
Anyone who is really hoping for the "fediverse" (fuck me I hate that name) to actually play out that way is delusional. 99.9% of casual users don't care about federation, they care about convenience. They want to go where the people are. This was always going to happen to federated sites as they get big, one will win out as the most popular. As you said, happened with mastodon, will happen here, will happen on any other federated service like peer tube or whatever it's called.
you're right that a large majority of people do not care, but this mentality will begin to change at some point. Also, the entire point of this is that it doesn't matter where the users are, because they can still join the same communities. Now, there are obviously a lot of things that need to improve in lemmy to make it more usable, but federation isn't one of them. The ActivityPub protocol is simple, yet powerful and relatively scalable.
Email works, or used to until giant corporations consolidated hundreds of small providers into a handful. I don't know why it wouldn't work for this.
Sure, the average user doesn't care how it works. That doesn't mean they can't use it as intended anyway.
Yeah, combine that with folks not understanding while registering that you can still see things from other servers while registering. They may kick the big one thinking it means they'll see the most content.
New user here too
Welcome!
28000 already!
Excited to be a part of something new!
Lemmy.world is growing for sure. Good.
If you're having a hard time seeing all the columns on mobile, use "view as desktop" in your browser settings. It's the only way I can see all the columns. (Android / Opera)
omg almost 29k at this time of writing, i like people are escaping from reddit
Almost 30k, lemmy.world is quickly becoming the largest instance, insane.
Im pretty sure that Lemmy, even if it doesn't grow to eclipse Reddit, will have a nice little following of its own that makes it a suitable substitution
Really excited to see what this becomes!
Huh. I wonder how many people are on kbin
As of this moment, about 33000 in the whole kbin network, with 30000 concentrated at the kbin.social server/instance. For comparison, the lemmy network currently has about 140000.
Source: https://fedidb.org/software/kbin
Kbin has been feeling really lively since the Reddit migration. The admin seems to be pretty busy making improvements to the UI / infrastructure. Keen to see what he does next
I am interested to see where this goes.
Judging by the fact it takes me 3 minutes to submit a comment and 30 seconds for posts to refresh then yes
Yep!
Hi Im new here.
Welcome!
Lots of bots.