The short video clip shows Mia Schem lying on a bed, her right arm being bandaged by someone out of the frame. A long, fresh scar is clearly visible.
The short video clip shows Mia Schem lying on a bed, her right arm being bandaged by someone out of the frame. A long, fresh scar is clearly visible.
Schem, a 21-year-old French-Israeli woman, is being held hostage by the militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip. The video released by Hamas on Monday is the first footage of any of the dozens of people held in the enclave.
Speaking into the camera, Schem, who looks pale, but is sitting up straight with her head held high, says she was injured and taken to Gaza, then pleads to be returned to her family.
As she speaks, loud rumbling can be heard in the background.
Speaking to reporters on Tuesday in Tel Aviv, Schem’s mother urged the government and world leaders to bring her daughter back home.
I'm not talking about people engaging in an actual discussion. That's not what "whataboutism" is. Whataboutism is a tool. Its in the playbook from actual troll farms. It's meant to detract and sow discontent.
"Well what about what x is doing" is what OP said and you agreed as if the phrase itself can't be used meaningfully in discussion. Whataboutisms are to distract by changing the topic to something unrelated but the only people changing the topic are those who are pro Palestine trying to illustrate Israel's wrongdoings which led to the acts you and others condemn.
That was what prompted the whataboutism thought. I assumed my words and intent were clear, but I guess not from your reply
Whataboutisms are to distract by changing the topic to something unrelated
Yes. That's why I said bad faith actors. They aren't interested in actual discussion.
but the only people changing the topic are those who are pro Palestine trying to illustrate Israel's wrongdoings which led to the acts you and others condemn.
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. The only people I am condemning are those who are not here for actual discussion. Hence my entire point.
Two things can be messed up at once. There's hope yet for the safe release of the hostages if Israel and America are willing to cooperate and openly communicate with Hamas officials. Bombing hospitals hasn't done much to stabilize things in the region or progress talks with regards to releasing the hostages. Israel must commit to a ceasefire, and must co-operate firstly with red cross and the UN, secondly with Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran to prevent this from escalating into a war on multiple fronts. Everyone wants the hostages to be released safely.
Provide proof to the contrary. No one has yet. It's entirely heresay and "we have proof but we won't show you". Israel sent a fake video that was almost immediately disproven. They've bombed schools today. They've bombed other hospitals since Oct 7th. I don't doubt for a single second that they would do this.
And even more violence could have been prevented if Hamas had cooperated and openly communicated with Israel before they attacked and took hostages. /s
Kidnapping is fucked up. You shouldn't kidnap people. Including the millions in Gaza who have been kidnapped and imprisoned. This isn't a whataboutism as you describe, this is making sure you realize these actions are bad even when your side does them.
We all know Hamas is bad - what we're trying to drill into your skull is that Israel is doing the same fucking shit as Hamas.