r/The_Donald has been banned on Reddit, what's to stop those users turning Lemmy into what became of Voat?

Strong moderation abilities, and instance admins like ourselves who actually ban white supremacist communities and not sit on their hands about hosting the largest one on the internet, for years.

edit: like just today, we had a few TERF communities try to set up here. It took us less than a day to ban them. Its not difficult.

That's good to hear, I've got very little idea of how the fediverse works nor how moderation works on these types of sites so thanks for clarifying. I had a look to see if c/the_donald existed and although it seems to, I could see the following:

Make America Great Again removed by mod

No Posts.

Does that mean the community has been removed by a mod then or something else?
- That's exactly what it means.
- Shitjustworks just voted to delist exploding heads from their instance. Beehaw is not federated with two of the largest (lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works) because they are worried about bots.
Gotta say, Lemmy is both way more active and way better curated so far then other Voat or any of the other Reddit clones
- Because now regular people actually have a reason to leave.

Assuming they're generally on the same instance ::cough EH cough:: others can just defederate if they want. Those that are harassing and spreading hate speech on mixed servers can be blocked, banned from communities, or the instance in question if egregious enough.

Edit: Am I resurrecting a 3 year old post rn?

Just happened on sh.itjust.works and we booted them https://sh.itjust.works/post/381489
- Oh I'm well aware lol. I'm a sh.itjust.works user as well and have been seeing the controversy that sub brought about the last few days.
You are indeed resurrecting a 3 year old post haha!

Glad to see so many of you here now though!
It's suddenly relevant again lol
the Hot sorting seems to be made of chewing gum and twigs, probably best to switch to top per day until they fix it.

There are way more of us than there are of them. Let them scream impotently into the void and hear nothing come back.

Sure, maybe they will rally some numbers and try ti make noise, but ultimately they will just get bored and move on as things aren't as monolithic here in the fediverse as they are on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter/etc.

Wdym it's not as monolithic here?
- Meaning different communities can set up their own Lemmy servers and they don't necessarily have to be part of the same federated network, in case there are unresolvable conflicts.
I sure hope you’re right.

Sure, let them. We can defederate if necessary. It’s the system working.

Nothing. However, some large instances could belikely to defederate whatever instance they sign up on and it could become a liability. You could also choose to defederate or block them yourself I think.

Defederation. Just don't join or federate with instances that allow hateful communities to thrive and it will be fine.

Free software is free for everyone, and innocent until proven guilty.

Right wing people want to have reasonable discussion on their space? Fine. I am not forced to talk with them, but they can provide interesting contribution to the debate, we lack them on the fedi. Far right people want a platform for non moderated hate speech. (Luckily, I live in a place with hate speech laws) at the point it spreads over the fedi . I would move to an instance not federating them.

That's the cool part of the federation, just like most Masto instance do not federate with instance posting child porn, you can get rid of neo Nazi by not federating them

I'm genuinely curious, looking to move from Reddit due to heavy-handed mod abuse and the extreme leftist bias of virtually all the big subreddits. Is Lemmy going to be a place where free speech is honored, or will conservatives always get the boot like on Reddit? I'm not talking about hate speech or calls for violence, I'm just as against that as the next person. But I'd like to know I'm not going to get banned because my opinion differed from that of a mod.

or will conservatives always get the boot like on Reddit?

If it stinks of shit everywhere you go then maybe it's time to look under your shoe? 🤔

While there's value in conservative thought most people who subscribe to it don't know how to exercise it.
You don't understand Lemmy. Feel free to host your own instance with your conservatives views. It will likely get defederated by other instances, but nobody's stopping you.
- That was 3 years ago, I don't think they're gonna see this.
As long as you're not hateful in the way you show it, conservatism is not always inherently evil. Just sadly the further you go to the right the more hateful you become to the rest of the world.

Not all conservatives are bad. But the kind that spout MAGA and long for Boris' return are usually in that camp.

I feel like most lemmy admins (at least on sh.itjust.works, from what I can tell) are quite lenient as long as what you office isn't winning towards harming or hating on another group of people

(Just to clarify to others, I am not a conservative, I'm very left leaning socially with some authoritarian views on certain governmental issues. But I also understand that not all conservatives are our enemy, we talk about them always ending up in echo chambers and ending up being more radicalised by doing so. I also don't want the left to start creating their own echo chambers by proxy. Debating is very productive in my opinion, you learn more about your own arguments and whether or not deep down if you still feel that way, while also seeing the point of view from the other side which in turn can often shed light on the real issue all of it stems from. Depending on the context of the debate obviously)
Make your own echo chamber idiot 😎😎😎
Don't conservatives have an entire subreddit all to themselves that no one else can post in?